<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body dir="auto"><p style="margin-top:0.0pt;margin-bottom:0.0pt;" dir="ltr"><span style="font-family: "Google Sans"; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;">My condodolences :-( Did he bring his drum to one of the FRIAM meetings? I have read he was an avid drummer like Richard Feynman himself or even better.</span></p><br dir="auto"><p style="margin-top:0.0pt;margin-bottom:0.0pt;" dir="ltr"><span style="font-family: "Google Sans"; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;">There were so many interesting people in this list, like Doug Roberts for instance, who used to have a parrot farm address, but as a remote participant I do not know if he really had a parrot farm or if it was just as a name for his company. I remember that one of you had a real parrot on his shoulder in one of the Zoom meetings, but I don't remember who :-/</span></p><br dir="auto"><p style="margin-top:0.0pt;margin-bottom:0.0pt;" dir="ltr"><span style="font-family: "Google Sans"; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;">I wonder if we have a volunteer who would like to write down a few words about this group and its members, including Carl and Doug? Maybe Tom as a journalist? If everybody contributes a few sentences about Carl and Doug we have already a whole page about each of them. If we have one day enough content we can (self-) publish it as a book. Even if nobody of us finds out anything special or how the world works it would be a good memory.</span></p><br dir="auto"><p style="margin-top:0.0pt;margin-bottom:0.0pt;" dir="ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Google Sans"><span style="white-space-collapse: preserve;">Jochen</span></font></p><br dir="auto"><div><br></div><div align="left" dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: steve smith <sasmyth@swcp.com> </div><div>Date: 9/9/24 4:44 AM (GMT+01:00) </div><div>To: friam@redfish.com </div><div>Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Passing of Carl Tollander </div><div><br></div></div>
<p>Carl was the one I was most likely to sit with and talk
one-on-one during WedTech luncheons when we both used to attend
(decade or more ago?) semi-regularly. I also acutely remember
when he brought the Taiko Drum group (just forming) to SFx circa
2008? It was quite a scene and the old railcar garage had great
acoustics for them as I remember!<br>
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<p>We haven't celebrated too many losses in the FriAM constituency
have we? <br>
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<p>I remember when someone (Kevin Kelly) made the point on The WELL
(whole earth lectronic link, circa 1990) that a virtual
"community" wasn't a proper community until it experienced at
least one wedding and one funeral. I think the WELL has
experienced much larger attrition than we have. <br>
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<p>Offhand, I only know of Doug, Hywell, now Carl, and I'm thinking
we lost Vladymir ??? from Canada to the Grim Reaper ("Смерть").
Peter Lissaman (Gossamer Albatross fame) was a SFx regular for a
while as were Fred (Unterseher) and Becky though neither were
FriAM...who we lost over the last roughly 4 years.... sorry to go
into morbid list-making... <br>
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<div>It was Carl and you who welcomed me into this community 20
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 4:42 PM
Frank Wimberly <<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com">wimberly3@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">I have similar regrets, Stephen. I live a five
minute walk from the Hospital. He and Bruce Sawhill were
the first people I met at Bios.</div>
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2:12 PM Stephen Guerin <<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:stephen.guerin@simtable.com">stephen.guerin@simtable.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">Ah man. I heard he was sick last month and
was slow to arrange a visit. shit.<br>
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<div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at
1:20 PM Tom Johnson <<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:jtjohnson555@gmail.com">jtjohnson555@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>Some of you will remember Carl Tollander, who
was a regular attendees on Friday mornings until a
few years ago.</div>
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