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<p>I'm on NMSurf.com for most of a decade now, after the
grant-funded San I wireless system ground to a halt after the
funding went away... before that I enjoyed a whole year of
HughesNet satellight which was painfully asymmetric and heavily
latent. Before that dialup over the most poorly maintained copper
in the world/country/state/county (probably just the latter). I
think I'm paying for the lowest tier of 100Mbps and but I don't
get any better service than I did when I was paying (the same
price or a little more) for 25Mbps and similarly for 10Mbps before
that. <br>
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<p>The hardest thing I ask of my ISP is one or maybe two
simultaneous video streams (Netflix/Prime/Youtube, ???) and that
was something even the 10Mbps (usually) served well enough. <br>
</p>
<p>I was pulling signal from 23 miles away Line of Sight from the
top of Big Tesuque for the longest time and it never failed, even
in the harshest snow/rainstorms... a-mazing. They relit the San
lldefonso tower just about 1/2 mile from me and I get (best I can
tell) the very same service, but it must be a lot easier/cheaper
for them to provide such. My downtime on top of the mountain was
same or better, probably because they were probably serving a lot
more people from that location and were a lot more on top of
keeping the UPS and backup generators and multiple backhauls up
and running 24/7 A few bad storms had them out of service for
the long part of a day. I get the same frequency/duration of
outages (or higher) from my local "Tewa Tower" source which is
probably a combination of problems with right-of-way for service
on-pueblo and the small(er) number of clients (hundreds at most?)
served from there.</p>
<p>I considered Starlink a few years ago as a way to be redundant
with my neighbors who variously do use some version of Comcast and
Qwest copper lines. There was a moment when I though I could
talk them into letting me mesh all 4 houses together with 4
backhauls (comcast, qwest, microwave ala NMSurf, Starlink) but
they were not really up for being that chummy or dependent on
me/one-another I think?</p>
<p>What really stopped me was fine print in Musk's EULA which
suggested that by accepting his service I was implicitely
endorsing the idea that whomever landed on Mars first got to
commercialize it. I wish I could find that fine print again or
some reference to it, maybe I made it up? Oh, yeh, then he said
"we will coup anyone we want"... buh!</p>
<p><br>
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<p>- Steve<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/12/24 8:30 AM, Gary Schiltz wrote:<br>
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style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:small">It
depends on what's on the other end of your fiber connection
:-) Here in land that tech forgot, getting more than a few
tens of megabits feels luxurious. One carrier has fiber optic
passing over my property, and they offered to tap into it and
give me 20 megabits for the low low price of $100 a month.
Starlink's 300 megabits for $45 a month is heaven on earth.
Isn't Santa Fe still sort of part of the third world?</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at
9:06 AM Marcus Daniels <<a
href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>>
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style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Neat
trick, but no substitute for fiber. 🙂</div>
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style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><a
href="https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/d227591a-534e-4811-a3e9-1b055d44914d"
id="m_-305031667311582476LPlnk484286" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.speedtest.net/result/c/d227591a-534e-4811-a3e9-1b055d44914d</a></div>
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<div id="m_-305031667311582476divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><font
style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri, sans-serif"
color="#000000"><b>From:</b> Friam <<a
href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>>
on behalf of Gary Schiltz <<a
href="mailto:gary@naturesvisualarts.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">gary@naturesvisualarts.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 11, 2024 8:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity
Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">friam@redfish.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Starlink</font>
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<div dir="auto">I have Starlink here in Ecuador and am
very happy with it. But here it is only $45 a month
and $120 there. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Wed, Sep 11, 2024 at 10:21 PM
Gillian Densmore <<a
href="mailto:gil.densmore@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">gil.densmore@gmail.com</a>>
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<div dir="ltr">What are folks's thoughts on this?
for the atrocious choices of conned-cast
or...nothing? or are there finally ISP's that
aren't DSL here?-- How is it? what's it really
like? are they anygood? the speed is still god
awful at a pathetic 25mgs. but so is Comcast.
Appallingly enough. We get snow storms and
stuff, is it a blackout then?
<div>Asking because Comcast is going. From
sometime early this morning to about 20
minutes ago being out. Being legendarily
terrible and no one has had the korvnka's the
slap them with a RICO anti-trust suit yet. God
only knows why. </div>
<div>So looking starlink and open to other
options:</div>
<div>they have to real propper internet, at
least 200mbs each way and white-glove levels
of service.</div>
<div>CC owen as well. I suspect we've both had
enough.</div>
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