<div dir="ltr"><div>Hi, Jochen, <br></div><div><br></div><div>Not sarcastic.   It was to show the exploratory nature of such models.   I do believe that the most mysterious feature of charisma is the behavior of the charasmees.  However this election turns out, almost half the country is about to willingly offer up it's political autonomy to a potential dictator.  Whatever my faults, I try, try, TRY not to do sarcasm.  I do wonder if we could build models that explore under what circumstances it is better for everybody to do SOMETHING  then to take the time to pool information and do the right thing.  <br></div><div><br></div><div>In general evolutionary history has no actual power to constrain our present behavior.   Our behavior is constrainted by present events and present behavioral repertoire.  </div><div><br></div><div>Nick <br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 30, 2024 at 2:37 PM Jochen Fromm <<a href="mailto:jofr@cas-group.net">jofr@cas-group.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><p style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:"Google Sans";color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">In her book "The Social Instinct" Nichola Raihani mentions in chapter 17 the article "An evolutionary model explaining the Neolithic transition from egalitarianism to leadership and despotism" from Simon T. Powers as a model how despotic regimes and dominance hierarchies have evolved in </span>early human societies.</p><p style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:"Google Sans";color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><a href="https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/abs/10.1098/rspb.2014.1349" target="_blank">https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/abs/10.1098/rspb.2014.1349</a></span></p><br><p style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:"Google Sans";color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">It reminds me of our recent discussion triggered by Nick's (sarcastic?) proposal to explain parts of the MAGA movement in terms of evolutionary psychology. Simon T. Powers is an interdisciplinary researcher working at the University of Sterling</span></p><p style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:"Google Sans";color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><a href="https://www.stir.ac.uk/people/2013555" target="_blank">https://www.stir.ac.uk/people/2013555</a></span></p><br><p style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:"Google Sans";color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">A more recent article from him about "Modelling transitions between egalitarian, dynamic leader and absolutist power structures" can be found here</span></p><p style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:"Google Sans";color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><a href="https://www.stir.ac.uk/research/hub/publication/2041639" target="_blank">https://www.stir.ac.uk/research/hub/publication/2041639</a></span></p><p style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:"Google Sans";color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><br></span></p><p style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt" dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:"Google Sans";color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline">-J.</span></p></div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div>-. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. .<br>
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