<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body dir="auto">Yes, it feels like it. It is depressing. I really hoped Kamala would win. If inflation was one of the main reasons behind the outcome of the election then people have made a mistake. It is a problem here in Europe too. The reasons have been as far as I know the Coronavirus pandemic, the war in Ukraine and the low interest rates to stabilize the economy after the pandemic. It was not the fault of Biden and Harris.<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">There was a documentary in TV recently where the journalist interviewed an American couple somewhere in one of the swing states if they could imagine voting for Harris, and the woman said no, because there would be only male leaders in the Bible, and therefore she could not vote for a woman. I was a bit shocked to here this attitude in the 21th century.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">-J.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div align="left" dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Merle Lefkoff <merlelefkoff@gmail.com> </div><div>Date: 11/6/24 10:40 PM (GMT+01:00) </div><div>To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> </div><div>Subject: Re: [FRIAM] How democracies die </div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Yes, of course we're doomed. Our living systems (including human governance and compassion) began collapsing long before now.</div></div><br dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Wed, Nov 6, 2024 at 1:34 AM Jochen Fromm <<a href="mailto:jofr@cas-group.net">jofr@cas-group.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto"><font dir="auto">I woke up today and saw the horrific news on TV that Trump has won again. It is incredibly bad on many levels. It is bad for the environment. The world will not be able to stop global warming without the U.S. </font><font dir="auto">It is bad for Ukraine as well. </font>To me it feels like the end of civilization and democracy. The people who voted for him probably do not read Paxton, Arendt or Levitsky and Ziblatt. Or do not care.<div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/562246/how-democracies-die-by-steven-levitsky-and-daniel-ziblatt/">https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/562246/how-democracies-die-by-steven-levitsky-and-daniel-ziblatt/</a></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">was wondering how this is possible. </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">If we define populism as an ideology that presents "the people" as a morally good force and contrasts them against "the elite", who are portrayed as corrupt and self-serving t</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">hen this could be a reason why Trump is so successful. He is good at populism because he is corrupt and self-serving himself, and uses projection t</span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">o accuse others.</span></div><p dir="ltr" style="margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;font-variant-alternates:normal;vertical-align:baseline"><a href="https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/308163/what-is-populism-by-muller-jan-werner/9780141987378">https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/308163/what-is-populism-by-muller-jan-werner/9780141987378</a></span></p><br></div><div dir="auto">What do you think? Why have people voted for him although they know what kind of person he his? Are we doomed now? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-J.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div></div></div></div></div></div>.- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-..<br>
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