<div dir="ltr">How can you have "laid off 50,000 public employees so far [...] while [...] not losing jobs."? Are public employees not working at jobs? Are jobs not lost if you destroy them on purpose?<div><div><br></div><div>-- rec --</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 10:05 AM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg6480387390209251409"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_6480387390209251409WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Axios may be on to something. MSNBC is more like therapy than news.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> on behalf of Pieter Steenekamp <<a href="mailto:pieters@randcontrols.co.za" target="_blank">pieters@randcontrols.co.za</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Wednesday, November 20, 2024 at 8:57 AM<br><b>To: </b>The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [FRIAM] Javier Milei<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Claude deserves some applause for doing a solid job summarizing the podcast — well done! The conclusion, "As with any extreme ideology, a degree of skepticism is warranted until real-world evidence validates the theories," seems pretty spot-on. It’s a good reminder that bold ideas often need to prove themselves in the wild.<br><br>I’m genuinely curious to see how things play out in the next year or so. Let’s be honest, Argentina could really use a win when it comes to improving things. Fingers crossed for fewer missteps and more meaningful strides forward!<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">On Wed, 20 Nov 2024 at 18:03, glen <<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com" target="_blank">gepropella@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Nearly 2 hrs? No thanks. Here's Claude's summation, FWIW.<br><br>--------------------<br>Claim 1: Milei says he came to understand the ideas of freedom and Austrian economics in 2013-2014 after reading works by Rothbard, Mises, Hayek and others. This caused a "revolution" in his thinking.<br><br>Claim 2: Milei describes himself as an anarcho-capitalist in principle, but a minarchist in practice given real-world constraints. He wants to minimize the state as much as possible.<br><br>Claim 3: Upon taking office, Milei says Argentina had annual inflation heading towards 17,000%, poverty near 50%, fiscal deficits of 15% of GDP, and was on the brink of hyperinflation and economic collapse.<br><br>Claim 4: Milei says his government achieved fiscal balance in its first month, cut ministries by over half, laid off 50,000 public employees so far, cut social plans, and reduced inflation from a 17,000% annual rate to 2.4% in six months, all while avoiding price controls and not losing jobs.<br><br>Claim 5: Milei's goal is to make Argentina the freest country in the world through deregulation and free market reforms. He believes this will dramatically increase GDP per capita.<br><br>Claim 6: Milei is aligned geopolitically with the US and Israel, which he sees as representing freedom and Western liberal democracy against autocracy. He wants stronger trade ties with the US.<br><br>Claim 7: Milei believes free market capitalism is the best system for human cooperation and prosperity. He rejects the notion of market failures and says neoclassical economics enables harmful government interventions.<br><br>In summary, Milei makes bold claims about rapidly improving Argentina's economy through free market policies. More data over time is needed to fully assess the results. His broader philosophical arguments express common libertarian/anarcho-capitalist views, which are influential in some circles but rejected by many mainstream economists and experts. As with any extreme ideology, a degree of skepticism is warranted until real-world evidence validates the theories.<br><br>On 11/20/24 01:29, Pieter Steenekamp wrote:<br>> I’m not entirely convinced this group will be moonwalking with joy over Javier Milei’s actions, but I must admit I’m intrigued by what he claims to have achieved in Argentina over the past year, as he shared on Lex Fridman’s podcast: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NLzc9kobDk" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NLzc9kobDk</a> <<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NLzc9kobDk" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NLzc9kobDk</a>>.<br><br>-- <br>ꙮ Mɥǝu ǝlǝdɥɐuʇs ɟᴉƃɥʇ' ʇɥǝ ƃɹɐss snɟɟǝɹs˙ ꙮ<br><br>.- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-..<br>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br>Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom <a href="https://bit.ly/virtualfriam" target="_blank">https://bit.ly/virtualfriam</a><br>to (un)subscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com" target="_blank">http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br>FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</a><br>archives: 5/2017 thru present <a href="https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/" target="_blank">https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/</a><br> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 <a href="http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/" target="_blank">http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></blockquote></div></div></div>.- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-..<br>
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