<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div id="gmail-:3vp" class="gmail-Am gmail-aiL gmail-aO9 gmail-Al editable gmail-LW-avf gmail-tS-tW gmail-tS-tY" aria-label="Message Body" role="textbox" aria-multiline="true" style="direction:ltr;min-height:85px;" aria-controls=":3y4" aria-expanded="false">6) Human life span is too limited to consume all available media.<b> [Twisting glen's ideas about 'context' - no need to consume, all media is already part of the mind-context whole. See also, "enlightenment and omniscience."]</b><br></div></div></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div>On Thu, Dec 12, 2024, at 1:04 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style=""><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div><br></div><div class="qt-gmail_quote qt-gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="qt-gmail_attr">On Thu, Dec 12, 2024 at 11:25 AM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div class="qt-msg383769951756686958"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap:break-word;"><div class="qt-m_383769951756686958WordSection1"><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">Seems there are good reasons to replace humans.<br><br>1) Humans can’t easily travel to new planets due to radiation and hostile environments.<br>2) Our appetite for energy is vast and our decadence unbounded. A rising standard of living for all humans will accelerate this due to increased demands for fossil fuels.<br>3) At least in the United States, our education system is not serving the whole of the population effectively, leading to the election of people that make our problems worse.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;">4) We can’t cooperate to solve or even identify real problems.<br>5) AI seems to be successfully harvesting human knowledge and extending it, e.g. AlphaFold.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"><u></u> </span><br></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div id="qt-gmail-:3vp" class="qt-gmail-Am qt-gmail-aiL qt-gmail-aO9 qt-gmail-Al qt-editable qt-gmail-LW-avf qt-gmail-tS-tW qt-gmail-tS-tY" aria-label="Message Body" role="textbox" aria-multiline="true" style="direction:ltr;min-height:85px;" aria-controls=":3y4" aria-expanded="false"><div>6) Human life span is too limited to consume all available media.<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Murderbot_Diaries">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Murderbot_Diaries</a> are stories about a self aiming gun turret who discovers a wider world and gets confused by it.<br></div><div><br></div></div><div>-- rec -- <br></div><blockquote class="qt-gmail_quote" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1ex;"><div class="qt-msg383769951756686958"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap:break-word;"><div class="qt-m_383769951756686958WordSection1"><p class="qt-MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt;"><u></u></span><br></p><div style="border-right-width:medium;border-right-style:none;border-right-color:currentcolor;border-bottom-width:medium;border-bottom-style:none;border-bottom-color:currentcolor;border-left-width:medium;border-left-style:none;border-left-color:currentcolor;border-top-width:1pt;border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(181, 196, 223);padding-top:3pt;padding-right:0in;padding-bottom:0in;padding-left:0in;"><p class="qt-MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;"><br></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div>.- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-..<br></div><div>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br></div><div>Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom <a href="https://bit.ly/virtualfriam">https://bit.ly/virtualfriam</a><br></div><div>to (un)subscribe <a href="http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com">http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br></div><div>FRIAM-COMIC <a href="http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/">http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</a><br></div><div>archives: 5/2017 thru present <a href="https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/">https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/</a><br></div><div> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 <a href="http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/">http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/</a><br></div><div><br></div></blockquote><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div></body></html>