<div dir="auto"><div><div>Steve Smith: Judith is a keynote speaker.</div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://anticipation.philcomp.org/speakers/">https://anticipation.philcomp.org/speakers/</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Carlos, will you be attending given your UNAM connection? Or on proposal review committee? </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Stephen</div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">____________________________________________<br>CEO Founder, Simtable.com<br><a href="mailto:stephen.guerin@simtable.com">stephen.guerin@simtable.com</a> <br><br>Harvard Visualization Research and Teaching Lab<br><a href="mailto:stephenguerin@fas.harvard.edu">stephenguerin@fas.harvard.edu</a><br><br>mobile: (505)577-5828</div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 20, 2025, 2:59 PM steve smith <<a href="mailto:sasmyth@swcp.com">sasmyth@swcp.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
On 1/20/25 8:04 AM, glen wrote:<br>
> Yeah, that would be a lot of fun. Judith once called me "poisonous" <br>
> ... or maybe it was "toxic". I'll have to check my email archives. So <br>
> I doubt my contribution would be well-received. She later back-tracked <br>
> and lowered her estimation of me to something like "ignorant" or <br>
> "contrarian" or somesuch, like being demoted from Villain to redshirt <br>
> <<a href="https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=red+shirt" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=red+shirt</a>>. Even if I <br>
> didn't go, the submission-rejection process would be fun. I'll see if <br>
> I can come up with a topic. >8^D<br>
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I think Judith might have been channeling our own Doug Roberts? I know <br>
*I* have used "contrarian" for you but it was intended to be a term of <br>
endearment not dismissal, though I do understand how "merely contrarian" <br>
might feel implied? I know I tend toward kneejerk contrarian around <br>
technoutopian sentiments.<br>
<br>
I had no idea you were already engaged with this community. I was <br>
unaware of that Robert's daughter had taken up his legacy (reminds me a <br>
bit of the Mead/Bateson, Dyson, Bertalanffly dynasties?<br>
<br>
I listened to the Systems Thinking Ontario 2023: <br>
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ol5Q12G7P4" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ol5Q12G7P4</a> to get a bead on the tenor <br>
of Judith's perspectives. I don't see any specific reference to Judith <br>
at the MX workshop but I'm guessing nothing Rossenian happens in public <br>
without Judith invited/participating?<br>
<br>
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> On 1/20/25 6:15 AM, Stephen Guerin wrote:<br>
>> Glen,<br>
>><br>
>> I saw Carlos Getshenson posted this in Complexity Digest today.<br>
>><br>
>> <a href="https://anticipation.philcomp.org/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://anticipation.philcomp.org/</a> <<a href="https://anticipation.philcomp.org/" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://anticipation.philcomp.org/</a>><br>
>><br>
>> If FRIAM raised the dollars from its members, can we send you as its <br>
>> envoy to present and report back?<br>
>><br>
>> 3/4 serious. 1/4 just a funny idea that we would have an envoy and <br>
>> imagine sending you out as our lead Rosennian philosophical sparring <br>
>> partner.<br>
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