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<body><div style="font-family: sans-serif;"><div class="plaintext" style="white-space: normal;"><p dir="auto">I’m also using LM-Studio and AnythingLM to run local models. They are smaller than ChatGPT, but still fun to play with. When we closed down a business a couple of years ago, we left the support documents on the web, but I have put together an experimental system using llama3.2 along with attached documents including two PDF manuals and about 600 web pages developed over about a decade by our support staff. It seems to work pretty well, but I don’t think it provides anything that couldn’t be gotten by reading over 500 pages of PDF and 600 web pages. It does provide it a lot faster, though.</p>
<p dir="auto">It is very responsive on a new MacBook Pro with M4 Pro.</p>
<p dir="auto">— Barry</p>
<p dir="auto">On 27 Jan 2025, at 11:38, cody dooderson wrote:</p>
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<div>Just wanted to share something kind of related. I've been using a program called <b>LM-Studio</b> to run a chatbot on my local machine. Yeah, it's definitely slower than ChatGPT, and honestly, I don't think it's as good either. But here's the upside: it's completely free, and my data stays right here on my machine—no cloud stuff involved, which is a huge win for privacy.<br>
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From what I can tell, these models still have guardrails. While they might not be perfect yet, they aren't causing me any issues right now. It might be interesting to see how these guardrails develop as the models get bigger and more advanced.<br>
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It can run small versions of the new DeepSeek model that is making the news. I used an 8 billion parameter model to help me rewrite this email. I think the version in the news has over 100 billion parameters, and ChatGPT-4 may have 250 billion parameters.<br></div>
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<div>* DeepSeek-R1-Distill-Llama-8B-GGUF was used to write this email.<br></div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Jan 27, 2025 at 8:50 AM Prof David West <<a href="mailto:profwest@fastmail.fm">profwest@fastmail.fm</a>> wrote:<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">I do not believe that the collective on this list could not supply me with a URL, so IT must not exist, or it is intentionally being withheld.<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">I did dance on the edge of the abyss, and just a bit down slope. But my targets were government facilities (trains carrying ammo across the salt flats to San Diego and Vietnam) or institutions like large banks(they were still incredibly naive with regard cybercrime in those days). Can still quote my "Little Red Book," and, had they issued them, could show my SDS membership. Tales for the grandkids.<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">Gillian,<br></div>
<div style="font-family:Arial">Everyone on the list knows I have indulged psychedlics since 1969. I know how to extrract heroin, coke, and cook Meth; but have absolutely no interest in doing so. Have grown shrooms and extracted psylocibin. I know there is a fairly simple way to synthesize MDMA without using the banned precursor chemicals and might ask Ghost about that.<br></div>
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<div>On Sat, Jan 25, 2025, at 6:34 PM, steve smith wrote:<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">OK, assume me to be a sociopath, but please tell me where and how to access ghostGPT.<br></div>
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<p>I don't assume *you* to be a sociopath. I assume that you have a significant resistance to your own inner sociopath since you (by your own anecdote) have played much closer to what to me would be the edges of an abyss... or so I assume (fear). <br></p>
<p>If the analogy holds, my greatest fear about being drafted into the military was not that I would be killed or maimed by the enemy but that I would learn to kill and maim and like it. That by extension I would become sloppy about how I identified "the enemy"... maybe during basic training? It felt like a real and existential (to the most cherished part of myself) threat.<br></p>
<p>I have held a copy of the anarchist cookbook and even browsed through it but again, shied away when I found my eyes drawn to closely to the details of certain "tools" which had/have no obvious other purpose than to enact asymmetric (and likely anonymous) violence on others. This is not to say that I don't have in my mind scenarios where such skills and tools might be the only thing between myself and the annihilation of myself and all that I love. I am blessed to not live in such a context (so far, and for the most part). The fact that others live otherwise is a source of sadness for me but I am not tempted to seek those borders and regions myself. My instinct is that I am and would be an addict in such a space... would I be good enough to survive long enough to truly become "a menace to society"? Probably not.<br></p>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">I can find hundreds of pages talking about the tool, but cannot find the tool itself.<br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">I promise, no bombs, no drugs (I have my 1960s original copy of T<i>he Anarchist's Cookbook</i> for that), but I do have thousands of questions that I would like to ask, and it would be cool to do my own assessment of the risk that such a tool might actually pose. Is that risk as overblown as most of the claims made for AI, the dark web, or Silk Road (Ross Freed!!!).<br></div>
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<p>By analogy (again), I worked right up against secrets of nuclear weapons... There was little, if anything I learned about them that was more shocking or horrific than what everyone knows about them, and that knowledge did not seem specifically like a burden to me. Maybe some of the details of the fancy tricks used to make designs "intrinsically" foolproof (fool safe, safe even in the hands of fools?) made me uncomfortable to be the vessel of such. <br></p>
<p>I was much more uncomfortable as I shifted my exposure from "conventional" nuclear weapons design (and many other things) to more "conventional" military and intelligence projects. By the time I left in 2008 my clearance levels had risen, and exposure to projects put me in the orbit (IMO) of the kinds of things that I think triggered Snowden (and others) to take outrageous measures. My biggest fear was that I was going to learn or see something I couldn't unlearn or unsee. I kept my clearance for a couple of years, staying engaged with a couple of very mellow projects which never came close to such information. This was *before* Snowden. His unfurling back in (2014ish?) was quite conflicting and PTSD-ey for me.<br></p>
<p>I worked with people who *sought* to work on the most implicative projects, and IMO it was *mostly* ego driven, but in some cases it felt acutely that they were truly well, grounded people who had no "inner sociopath" and knew it?<br></p>
<p>One last tangential anecdote relates to my working my way through college as a PI... the more I learned about the craft and the more I learned about the targets of my clients (and more to the point, about my clients) the less I wanted to do the work.... this was Flagstaff, AZ a pretty small, nominally innocent town but the surface(s) I scratched trying to scratch out a living for a young family lead me to see and know things that would have been miserable to live with had I remained there. <br></p>
<p>The red/blue pill dilemma? <br></p>
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<p>- Steve<br></p>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">On Fri, Jan 24, 2025, at 8:48 AM, glen wrote:<br></div>
<div style="font-family:Arial">> <a href="https://abnormalsecurity.com/blog/ghostgpt-uncensored-ai-chatbot?ref=metacurity.com" target="_blank">https://abnormalsecurity.com/blog/ghostgpt-uncensored-ai-chatbot?ref=metacurity.com</a><br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">> "GhostGPT is a chatbot specifically designed to cater to <br></div>
<div style="font-family:Arial">> cybercriminals. It likely uses a wrapper to connect to a jailbroken <br></div>
<div style="font-family:Arial">> version of ChatGPT or an open-source large language model (LLM), <br></div>
<div style="font-family:Arial">> effectively removing any ethical safeguards. By eliminating the ethical <br></div>
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<div style="font-family:Arial">> provide direct, unfiltered answers to sensitive or harmful queries that <br></div>
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