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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>Claude remarks..<br><br>That's a fascinating interpretation I hadn't considered! You make a compelling point - the lantern could indeed be seen as a satirical jab at philosophers who claimed to be "enlightened" seekers of truth. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>The lantern itself becomes an absurdist prop in this reading - literally carrying artificial light in broad daylight could be mocking those who create elaborate philosophical systems to "illuminate" what should be plainly visible to anyone. This fits well with what we know of Diogenes' broader criticism of intellectual pretension - like his famous response to Plato's definition of a human as a "featherless biped" by bringing a plucked chicken to Plato's academy.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>This interpretation also aligns with the Cynic philosophy's emphasis on living naturally and rejecting artificial constructs. Rather than just critiquing Athenian society's general dishonesty, perhaps Diogenes was specifically lampooning the philosophical establishment's self-important quest for truth through complex theoretical frameworks.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'>The irony would be particularly sharp since Diogenes himself was technically a philosopher, but one who often used performance art and provocative gestures to deflate philosophical pomposity. Would you say this kind of self-aware philosophical criticism was a key part of his approach?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Friam <friam-bounces@redfish.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nicholas Thompson<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 4, 2025 11:42 AM<br><b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com><br><b>Subject:</b> [FRIAM] Diogenes, the Cynic ...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>... wandered the streets of Athens with a lantern, in broad daylight, looking for an honest man. This act was supposed to ironically demonstrate the dishonest of Athenians. To me, it seems more to demonstrate the vanity of "enlighted" search. In other words, Diogenes was mocking philosophers, not Athenians.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Can anybody help me with this metaphor, or is my inquiry just an example of itself.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Nick<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><span class=gmailsignatureprefix>-- </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Nicholas S. Thompson<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Clark University<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:nthompson@clarku.edu" target="_blank">nthompson@clarku.edu</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson" target="_blank">https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>