<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div style="font-family:Arial;">Well, I (if I am the Dave you referred to) am an ordained priest, but only in the Aaronic Priesthood of the Mormon Church.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">The Church of the Contradiction is, IMHO, neither a <i>"religions disguised as jokes and jokes disguised as religions." </i>Rollins appears to be dead serious.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">To deconstruct the postmodernism of Rollins:<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">1- he had a, fairly common, moment of satori, recognizing that, <i><b>Reality is Not.</b></i> This experience is personally transformative, he is compelled to share it with everyone and thereby transform the world. He invents a structure, the Church of the Contradiction, along with rituals, like "experiencing the abyss in an empty warehouse," as mechanisms.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">2-His Church and its rituals require a falsework to support it, (A falsework is the collection of forms and butresses put in place before you can pour concrete to form a building or bridge.) Rollins finds this in Zizekian social philosophy and Lacanian psychoanalysis. <i>[He might have gone a lot further if he had encountered Jung instead of Freud and Lacan. Especially Jung's collective unconscious and alchemical analysis (dream interpretation).]</i></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">3-The "theology" of the Church centers on the premise that God is Dead: a contraction if God never was (Nietzsche, et. al.) or God is eternal (fundamentalists). There is no contradiction in Rollin's satori because Reality is Not.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">4-The theology requires additional falsework. This time from Lacan and Wittgenstein and language philosophy; plus practice, also from Lacan but some from Zizek.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">5-The ultimate, and ironic, contraction is the notion that the ineffable can be achieved via a Church, Theology, and Liturgy—kind of like the books that supposedly provide "answers" to koans.<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">FWIW,<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">davew<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;"><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">On Thu, Feb 6, 2025, at 10:23 AM, glen wrote:<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">> Peter Rollins and the Church of the Contradiction<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">> <a href="https://philosophyportal.substack.com/p/peter-rollins-and-the-church-of-the">https://philosophyportal.substack.com/p/peter-rollins-and-the-church-of-the</a><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">> error: unexpected identifier; expected command<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">> error: unknown tactic<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">> error: failed to synthesize<br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">><br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">> I used to be (kinda still am) a fan of religions disguised as jokes and <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">> jokes disguised as religions. So I was enthusiastic about the Church of <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">> the Contradiction. But OMG ... my aging brain could not digest this <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">> stuff. I have no idea what I just read. I figured what is FriAM if not <br></div><div style="font-family:Arial;">> a place to share one's discombobulation? 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