<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">"by themselves they cannot calculate" but when prompted they will attempt any kind of task that wasn't blacklisted by their guard rails. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div>-- rec --</div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 12:41 PM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-7140931929014125854"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_-7140931929014125854WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-7140931929014125854EmailStyle18"><span style="font-size:11pt">Huh, Claude just implemented the optimal strategy to Nim and ran in it its analysis tool (the Javascript engine on my browser).<br><br></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> on behalf of Roger Critchlow <<a href="mailto:rec@elf.org" target="_blank">rec@elf.org</a>><br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday, February 11, 2025 at 11:36 AM<br><b>To: </b>The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [FRIAM] genai and critical thinking<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 10:15 AM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com" target="_blank">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> <u>[...]</u> the evolving code itself -- code that can have informative types and even carry proofs. The weirdest thing about using AI is that it has no opinions. Claude will rewrite code without asking (seemingly having no self-control), but it will not confront you like a frustrated colleague might. It is happy to let you make a mess provided its sense of idiomatic code patterns are satisfied.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"> This echoed something an old boss wrote me today:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">I have much enjoyment torturing llms. I can get off the rails rather easily. They have no state, by themselves they cannot calculate parity or play nim perfectly. <u></u><u></u></span></p></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">Or one might say, they have no purpose.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt">-- rec -- <u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div>.- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-..<br>
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