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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/8/25 7:42 AM, Frank Wimberly
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<p>I've been snorting lines of mouse and packrat dust my whole life
and never even knew someone personally who contracted hanta-virus
(though plenty of anecdotal and high-profile stories like
Hackman's wife). I've known a number of people who have been
diagnosed with Lyme disease while living in an area with a much
lower flux of ticks than mice. The former is highly lethal, the
second can be life-changing debilitating and chronic (some folks'
symptoms didn't really become pronounced for years after initial
infection). NM is also known for high rates of bubonic plague
(rodent vector), the ABQ science fiction (small) conference is
known as "Bubonicon".<br>
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<p>I have become much more careful (respectful) of mouse-droppings,
etc as I've aged (and become more aware of my mortality as my
vulnerability also rises). I don't look askance at people who
choose to mask and carry a 10% bleach spray-bottle when they
attack mouse-dropping detritus, though I do neither myself. I
have to remind some of those very people that running their
handheld or even shop-vac in that context is possibly the very
worst thing they can do. Paradoxically, the most fastidious
house-keepers may well be at the most risk if this is their method
of keeping up with the invaders.<br>
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<p>I *do* run a shop-vac when I do my twice yearly cleanout of my
Yurt where the little buggers *are* known to take up residence if
there is not enough human/pet activity to deter them ( I do use
various deterrents such as cayenne, cinnamon, peppermint, pine
oil, etc). But I do it in a wet context... spray down the floors,
scrub with handled brush, wet-vac up the muck and then several
rinse-passes. I *never* dry-vac (aerosolize the potential
hanta-laden urine-dust) where rodents may have spent much time.
My probability of contracting hanta has probably dropped a couple
of orders of magnitude from the years when I took no precautions
whatsoever. I don't ask anyone else to clean rodent-detritus for
this very reason.<br>
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<p>I was shocked to hear that the wife apparently died days before
Hackman himself did. I've had two Alzheimer's father-figures
over the decades and can imagine that he might well have
functioned minimally for a week in that context. He was
apparently not dehydraded, so was able to self-care to some
extent. I was full-time caretaker for my own father for about 10
days less than a year before his final passing and I could have
imagined him wandering the house alone for a week if my mother had
passed without anyone else knowing. She had had to put
escape-proof locks on the egress doors lest he go visiting the
neighbors in the middle of the night (several incidents of such),
it is possible the Hackman Residence had the same? <br>
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Frank C. Wimberly<br>
140 Calle Ojo Feliz, <br>
Santa Fe, NM 87505<br>
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505 670-9918<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sat, Mar 8, 2025, 7:30 AM
Sarbajit Roy <<a href="mailto:sroy.mb@gmail.com"
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videos of Santa Fe county's medical examiner claiming
the Hackman deaths were due to Hanta virus ?</span></blockquote>
<div><span class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Just curious</span> <span
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">to know if
Hanta virus is common in NM ? Or, is it some sort of
cover up ?<br>
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Sarbajit Roy (India)</span></div>
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