<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;"><div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Apr 15, 2025, at 23:23, glen <gepropella@gmail.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>Meanwhile, in the actual world:<br>https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fdailynous.com%2f2025%2f04%2f15%2fphilosophy-major-snatched-by-ice-during-citizenship-interview%2f&c=E,1,L2ZI3y2CS5tyf6183uFV4tgrUv3__xDR-FHW6S-Wy1gbdeGn2ZkQcyFv_bTqvzhaOIQMRuwSBdHDtKoE0CvhMmJVBK2sCyoblTAr04YmIKWMLYvGVXxnN8I-7alQ&typo=1<br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div><div>I would like to see the media start to refer to these as kidnappings, or abductions, or some other at-least-properly-scoped term. In every case where that is the correct one, which I think would be every case we have seen in the news so far.<div><br></div><div>Turns out Masha Gessen wrote a kind of nice piece in the NYT a few days ago, which came to me on a different list. </div><div><div style="display: block;"><div style="-webkit-user-select: all; -webkit-user-drag: element; display: inline-block;" class="apple-rich-link" draggable="true" role="link" data-url="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/opinion/trump-higher-education.html"><a style="border-radius:10px;font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;display:block;-webkit-user-select:none;width:300px;user-select:none;-webkit-user-modify:read-only;user-modify:read-only;overflow:hidden;text-decoration:none;" class="lp-rich-link" rel="nofollow" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/opinion/trump-higher-education.html" dir="ltr" role="button" draggable="false" width="300"><table style="table-layout:fixed;border-collapse:collapse;width:300px;background-color:#3B3B37;font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="lp-rich-link-emailBaseTable" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" border="0" width="300"><tbody><tr><td vertical-align="center" align="center"><img style="width:300px;filter:brightness(0.97);height:168px;" width="300" height="168" draggable="false" class="lp-rich-link-mediaImage" alt="14gessen-videoSixteenByNineJumbo1600-v2.jpg" src="cid:6D0D97AB-9F4A-4C57-82FF-ED858765C58A"></td></tr><tr><td vertical-align="center"><table bgcolor="#3B3B37" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="300" style="table-layout:fixed;font-family:-apple-system, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgba(59, 59, 55, 1);-apple-color-filter:initial;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:8px 0px 8px 0px;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStackItem"><div style="max-width:100%;margin:0px 16px 0px 16px;overflow:hidden;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStack"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;font-weight:500;font-size:12px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;text-align:left;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStack-topCaption-leading"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/opinion/trump-higher-education.html" style="text-decoration: none" draggable="false"><font color="#FFFFFF" style="color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.847059);">Opinion | This Is How Universities Can Escape Trump’s Trap, if They Dare</font></a></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word;font-weight:400;font-size:11px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;text-align:left;" class="lp-rich-link-captionBar-textStack-bottomCaption-leading"><a rel="nofollow" href="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/opinion/trump-higher-education.html" style="text-decoration: none" draggable="false"><font color="#FFFFFF" style="color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0.54902);">nytimes.com</font></a></div></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></a></div></div></div><div><div><div class="apple-rich-link" draggable="true" role="link" data-url="https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/14/opinion/trump-higher-education.html" style="-webkit-user-select: all; -webkit-user-drag: element; display: inline-block;"></div></div></div><div><br></div><div>To the extent that it has been done, it’s proper to say it is a strategy. I think the resulting education will end up being rather more restrictive than what I had hoped for from a full educational program, and probably focused heavily on civics. Math could be possible, in the sense that that can be taught “behind the hedges”. Medical research, not so much. But, one does what one can do.</div><div><br></div><div>It’s an interesting question what is the proper balance of criticism and understanding to give the businessmen who run universities, and who have Darwin-wise managed to eliminate almost any other model from the ecosystem. It’s not total criticism, in the sense that there is sheer mechanics that they do contribute to solving, without which the broad set of functions I want don’t get done. But the sense that they don’t take seriously what it means to live under a fascist regime where dissidence is the _only_ alternative to collaboration — there is no more neutrality — does seem to be a deserved criticism of their responses so far. </div><div><br></div><div>Eric</div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"></div></div></body></html>