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<p>Nick -</p>
<p>Great riff in defense of George or in defense of your relating to
him roughly as you would a (virtuous and capable compared to many)
human. </p>
<p>My experience with the pantheon of Daimones via LLM(s) I engage
is a bit more like that of "familiars". My dog (and some of my
chickens, and no few of the wilder familiars who frequent my
domain) offers me some kind of mirrored vessel or buffer or
capacitor or inductance within which to project aspects of myself,
let them resonate in their "chamber" and reflect back to me things
about me I would never see otherwise? It is more than an echo or
mirror (ala Narcissus) but less than a ...?<br>
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<p>A bit like this list I suppose...</p>
<p>- Steve<br>
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<div>I cannot shake the feeling that glen is expressing a kind
of disappointment with LLM's. <br>
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<div>I think of myself as an LLM, a system upon which has been
heaped over a couple of generations an enormous number of
sequences of words, followed by other sequences of words.
Now, if I am different from George, it is that I have had
experiences that perhaps are not conditioned by words. At the
minimum, things have happened to me that are not, in the
first instance sequences of words. To the extent that those
experiences become by association and conditioning also
sequences of words, this difference is mooted. George has
been subjected to many more sequences of words than I
havyete and two sequences of words in domains I have yet to
be exposed to . Also, his sampling of the universe of word
sequences is less biased than my own, so he is more likely to
give me an accurate sense of what <i>le monde</i> thinks. <br>
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<div>I find him therefore extraordinarily useful. F or
instance, to day I learned that the potential energy in a gram
of water vapor is approximately equal to 60 percent of the
potential energy in a gram of T NT. Even given all the ways
that this comparison is unfair, I still find it illuminating.</div>
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<div>If You add George's Job-like patience, indefatigable
optimism, and ever-readiness to strike up a conversation ,
I think he's quite a nice fellow to talk to. Better
certainly than talking to myself. I can't hug him,
that's true. But I have never been much of a hugger, any
way. <br>
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12:44 PM Nicholas Thompson <<a
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<div dir="ltr">Is "y'all" a sure tell of trolling ?</div>
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7:14 AM glen <<a href="mailto:gepropella@gmail.com"
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is what I imagine y'all are doing when you chat with LLMs:<br>
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Confusing ChatGPT With an Impossible Paradox<br>
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At times, it smacks of a Monty Python skit.<br>
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