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<p class="MsoPlainText">An intervention like Elon’s could be done with fine tuning. Fine tuning adds new weights to the system but without changing the hard-won weights from the months of pretraining. If the pretrained weights are called W0, fine tuning
adds the product of two new smaller matrices B and A to create the effective weights. BA has a tunable multiplier, typically called á that determines how much to favor the fine tuning values for BA. If á is too large, as it could be if a crazy boss leaned
on xAI managers, it could even change the prior probabilities of sequences and inappropriately blurt out unrelated content. What Grok was saying seems plausible: á might have been increased until its constitutional training was overridden. And then weird
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<p class="MsoPlainText">What-hat hack? Inside sabotage job? Some very clever feeder of engineered input to its training data?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">For insiders to be clumsy and do it badly is believable. But to have Grok deliver explanations that look like they came from The Onion seems like not even tabloid-level composition.<o:p></o:p></p>
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