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        <div>Doug Roberts?</div>
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      <div dir="auto">Oh, if ever Doug was rolling in his grave. The
        swirlies and nouggies I might have endured if he were still
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            <div>NIck</div>
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    <p>I'd almost forgotten about Doug's compulsive adolescent snark
      directed at your fascination with vortices.  <br>
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    <p>It makes me wonder what he'd make of the AI phase transition we
      are in.  He had (IMO) both progressive and regressive ideas about
      simulation science/tech.  <br>
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    <p>Makes me wonder if there is a mirror/parallel quantity to PV
      which would be Latent Vorticity (LV)</p>
    <p> and is that similar to the torque that people who might roll in
      their grave experience?   Or is it a measure of the rolling they
      would do if they could do rolling?  How much roll would a Doug
      Roberts roll if Doug Roberts could roll (in his grave)?</p>
    <p>I won't even suggest someone train up an LLM on all of Doug's
      posts in response to Nick's to create a simulacra to harangue him?</p>
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                <div>Nicholas S. Thompson</div>
                <div>Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Ethology</div>
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