<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body dir="auto"><p style="margin-top:0.0pt;margin-bottom:0.0pt;" dir="ltr"><span style="font-family: "Google Sans"; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-numeric: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-alternates: normal; font-variant-position: normal; font-variant-emoji: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space-collapse: preserve;">You say as long as a robot's behaviors is 100% a function of its internal state and the external state it is coupled to we have no free will because the function determines the output and not some kind of mysterious free will, right?</span></p><p style="margin-top:0.0pt;margin-bottom:0.0pt;" dir="ltr"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Google Sans"; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><br></span></p><p style="margin-top:0.0pt;margin-bottom:0.0pt;" dir="ltr"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Google Sans"; white-space-collapse: preserve;">But what if the robot is able to manipulate this very function? If it is able to set its own directive it will definitely modify this overall function of its internal state and the external state it is coupled to. It is tricky but not impossible.</span></p><p style="margin-top:0.0pt;margin-bottom:0.0pt;" dir="ltr"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Google Sans"; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><br></span></p><p style="margin-top:0.0pt;margin-bottom:0.0pt;" dir="ltr"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Google Sans"; white-space-collapse: preserve;">-J.</span></p><p style="margin-top:0.0pt;margin-bottom:0.0pt;" dir="ltr"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: "Google Sans"; white-space-collapse: preserve;"><br></span></p><div><br></div><div align="left" dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Marcus Daniels <marcus@snoutfarm.com> </div><div>Date: 6/10/25 9:54 PM (GMT+01:00) </div><div>To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> </div><div>Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Free will—ghost in the machine or just clever wiring? </div><div><br></div></div><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="MsoNormal">< As long as they obey the directive all these bots and robots have the freedom to pick the action they think is best. In this sense they have free will. ><br><br>The robot’s behaviors will be 100% a function of its internal state and the external state it is coupled to (even if that external state is noise). That is a fact. No free will.</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Marcus</p></div><div><div><div><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto" class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></div></div></body></html>