<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">That’s fun.<div><br></div><div>When a person sits with legs crossed, femur over the knee, one of the large blood vessels in the back of the leg will cause the hanging lower leg to bounce very lightly on the systolic phase of the heartbeat. One can already watch breathing rates for almost everybody.</div><div><br></div><div>One of the things I used to do to stay awake during very boring seminars was to go around the room monitoring respiration and pulse of people, just out of curiosity about who’s in the world.</div><div><br></div><div>Eric</div><div><br></div><div><br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jun 24, 2025, at 4:36, Marcus Daniels <marcus@snoutfarm.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta charset="UTF-8"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">A good and important business could be to monitor public figures for drug use. All the little people get tested, why not the big ones? AI could monitor their speech patterns, their biomechanics, their appearance. Techniques like this could be used to amplify subtle signals. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><a href="https://people.csail.mit.edu/mrub/evm/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://people.csail.mit.edu/mrub/evm/</a><br><br>Is Elon on a big dose of ketamine today?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) currentcolor currentcolor; border-image: none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 12pt;">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> on behalf of Frank Wimberly <<a href="mailto:wimberly3@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">wimberly3@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Monday, June 23, 2025 at 12:09 PM<br><b>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">friam@redfish.com</a>><br><b>Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [FRIAM] The whole story about Palantir<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I read a little about Palantir last week and then I checked their stock price. I put in an order to buy 10 shares at 138. Compared to other holdings, that's trivial. I told my wife about the order and she seemed worried. She usually doesn't care what I do regarding stocks but she wanted to research PLTR. She decided that I shouldn't buy it for moral and ethical reasons. I didn't quite understand but I canceled the order. That's the first time she has ever gotten involved. To be fair, most of our investments that I manage are shares of the magnificent 7: Amazon, Apple, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Frank<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">On Mon, Jun 23, 2025 at 10:07 AM Merle Lefkoff <<a href="mailto:merlelefkoff@gmail.com" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">merlelefkoff@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><blockquote style="border-width: medium medium medium 1pt; border-style: none none none solid; border-color: currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204, 204, 204); border-image: none; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;"><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fbeyondthefirewall.substack.com%2fp%2fpalantirs-new-master-database-what%3futm_source%3dmultiple-personal-recommendations-email%26utm_medium%3demail%26triedRedirect%3dtrue&c=E,1,T-lY_2i0Uwrie7b_R1eVZhRiOVdMv4_OpZYB6x5TAR466xKIawb7Cu_CP5jRUMi2oMd_-P2feB3eE8b6H_ihOWAdMKdqr2Glus6RfQgD4ymxKoJQ0WGhAQpT&typo=1" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://beyondthefirewall.substack.com/p/palantirs-new-master-database-what?utm_source=multiple-personal-recommendations-email&utm_medium=email&triedRedirect=true</a><br clear="all"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="gmailsignatureprefix"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D.<br>Center for Emergent Diplomacy<br><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2femergentdiplomacy.org&c=E,1,gN-MZJ5DtkQuwv6bHck8r49U5GFcuIdkjovGlS6V5HC9750TYSK8iIbG4n9EQz06SUOsvXZW9OjJTc-9wzlIjj-dpza3JXM2bpkCbpdV1oxCLrS0tg,,&typo=1" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">emergentdiplomacy.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><br>mobile: (303) 859-5609<o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">.- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-..<br>FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv<br>Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fbit.ly%2fvirtualfriam&c=E,1,QUE2P9vTdfF51HE6amknecuOeO8wqxeP43WlRHjcSgY-Hq2efYf83Xl0QIjbqHALl81Jz-AgAUIO6YO7f0vN4ilQAw6OHHNoOi5s_t-fj0UksI_w&typo=1" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://bit.ly/virtualfriam</a><br>to (un)subscribe<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fmailman%2flistinfo%2ffriam_redfish.com&c=E,1,swjfj6ml15MjRldH88E5G7Uh_zBRqDly8BHrdwN_CuggKc4DvXLlgyIx9iFTIzBH7HMHC3GXll2oYHpSrbsvnc3DVzdd62H9bJYdunyMOcNViHOEUtZ_tBg,&typo=1" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com</a><br>FRIAM-COMIC<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2ffriam-comic.blogspot.com%2f&c=E,1,GWRgVMP_dpMi2Ay5LGAFuocgPN8yTOSz08ISGTI5CmIUD0t3PoYxqnQGFYLqTc4sLHHwwUfjwExqgX8dVL9h5NM5N96kxOgkxByI7OCfp_k,&typo=1" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/</a><br>archives: 5/2017 thru present<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fredfish.com%2fpipermail%2ffriam_redfish.com%2f&c=E,1,7Rju313KDKxue8BwdJqNEBIYKTtSUOWqfhp7muQTkNZ_56kWsqj-jvszkYwjneAY_RhmQTxen66fWWb2mTgj_PpNHvDPypdzR7i-NYbV&typo=1" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/</a><br> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></blockquote></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><br clear="all"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span class="gmailsignatureprefix"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Frank Wimberly<br>140 Calle Ojo Feliz<br>Santa Fe, NM 87505<br>505 670-9918<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Research: <a href="https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;">https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2</a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">.- .-.. .-.. / ..-. --- --- - . .-. ... / .- .-. . / .-- .-. --- -. --. / ... --- -- . / .- .-. . / ..- ... . ..-. ..- .-..</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: 400; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; 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