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I am NOT a troll, but I am a ferocious amateur in all matters, a plunger, a tourist , a dilletant,
<span style="font-size: 16px;">the fool who enters in where wise men fear to tread,</span> etc. I get a real joy from stumbling on the relations between things. And then wondering if the relations I have stumbled upon are merely superficial, or have some
profundity to them. So, while I can take delight in a relation between mathematics and music, I really know relatively little about either. So when you produced "If I had a ribbon bow" in the midst of a mathematical discussion, it was for me a wonderful
moment. And then I am tempted to fold the argument back on itself and ask is there anything mathematical about major and minor modes, in general, or that tune, in particular. I did wonder if illumination might be gotten by focussing on the intervals of the
modes on a 12 tone scale. So if we write them out starting at random, and going a couple cycles for completeness sake, we capture both the major and the minor modes depending only upon where we start. </div>
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<b>2,2,1,2,2,<i><u>2,1</u></i></b><i><u>,2,2,1,2,2</u></i>,2,1 </div>
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I am, in my plungerish sort of way, interested in what this implies about the semantics of mathematics. I have a long thread with Frank of this list in which we agree that mathematics, to the extent that it is a distinct field, has no semantics whatsoever. </div>
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As to ChatGPT (George), he, like me, is a plunger. Contrary to EricS, I did NOT consult him until after I had consulted you-all. I was surprized when he got the answer first pass. I flagged Jon Z on my original post, not because he is a mathematician,
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By, the way, to me, a troll is someone who delights in making others angry. I actually fear the anger of others. </div>
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All of which is probably irrelevant to your last post, to which I should probably have responded, "I did not understand."</div>
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<b>From:</b> Friam <friam-bounces@redfish.com> on behalf of Matteo Morini <matteo@swarm.org><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, September 11, 2025 9:31 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Nick being irritating -- </div>
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<p style="margin-top: 1em; margin-bottom: 1em;">Likewise, Nick!</p>
<p style="margin-top: 1em; margin-bottom: 1em;">I see multiple tangents departing from the original conversation, and I'm happy to roll back to the original thread.</p>
<p style="margin-top: 1em; margin-bottom: 1em;">You're spot on, save for a constant of integration. The completion I had in mind was supposedly 1, 6, 1, [polyphony ensues, sorry 6,10], 1, 8, 6, [1,10] (
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<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Great to hear from you Matteo, </p>
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<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">I have no idea mathematically what 1,3,4,6,8,11,10; is, but musically its the first 7 notes of "if I had a ribbon bow" (<span style="color: blue;"><u><a style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" data-auth="NotApplicable" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext OWAAutoLink" id="OWA82d5fdaf-232e-1c7d-e0d5-5fa781f84df3" href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkXwfsGBupM">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkXwfsGBupM</a></u></span>).
In that case the completion would be, </p>
<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">6,8,8, 8, 8, 8;</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">But what is it really?</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">On Wed, Sep 10, 2025 at 10:45<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">\u202f</span>AM Matteo Morini <<span style="color: blue;"><u><a style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext OWAAutoLink" id="OWAd3d6e060-1491-8a66-0e73-acf6ca61193e" href="mailto:matteo@swarm.org">matteo@swarm.org</a></u></span>>
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<p style="margin-top: 1em; margin-bottom: 1em;">Then, I raise you 1,3,4,6,8,11,10 !</p>
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<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Yes. Thank you. I was beginning to fear i had asked an unfair q. Gpt got it on the first pass and then went on to say some interesting things about mathematics and semantics</p>
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On Sep 10, 2025, at 10:25<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">\u202f</span>AM, Matteo Morini
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<p style="margin-top: 1em; margin-bottom: 1em;">(Western) music involved? A C major and a mystery, possibly minor, scale respectively?</p>
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On Sep 10, 2025, at 9:42<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">\u202f</span>AM, Roger Frye
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Were it so, we'd need the next number {16,17} to tell the difference. But like many of Nick's riddles, I have no idea what he intended.<br>
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<p style="margin: 0in; font-family: Aptos, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Sorry, 22. I needed to constrain the two systems. Too much linear algebra to want to explain, but yeah, Vandermonde and all that.<br>
On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 9:22<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">\u202f</span>PM Jon Zingale <<span style="color: blue;"><u><a style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext OWAAutoLink" id="OWAd809edb4-6ea8-f3ac-e1be-1e77ba51cfe5" href="mailto:jonzingale@gmail.com">jonzingale@gmail.com</a></u></span>
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It's 29.<br>
I am assuming you are thinking of a polynomial that generates each sequence. Unfortunately, it's a 6th degree polynomial and so solving for the coefficients is a pain. You construct a Vandermonde matrix (V) a vector of dummy coefficients a = [a0, a1, ...,
a6]. Then you solve for the coefficients relative to your sequence (S), V * a = S.<br>
Python helped nicely:<br>
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n1 = np.array([0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6])<br>
y1 = np.array([1, 3, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12])<br>
coeffs1 = np.polyfit(n1, y1, 6)<br>
sol1 = np.polyval(coeffs, 7)<br>
n2 = np.array([0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6])<br>
y2 = np.array([1, 3, 4, 6, 8, 9, 10])<br>
coeffs2 = np.polyfit(n2, y2, 6)<br>
sol2 = np.polyval(coeffs, 7)<br>
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On Tue, Sep 9, 2025 at 3:17<span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;">\u202f</span>PM Nicholas Thompson <<span style="color: blue;"><u><a style="color: blue; margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="x_moz-txt-link-freetext OWAAutoLink" id="OWA393d7cd0-dfc4-d260-b33e-ed7a39bf766a" href="mailto:thompnickson2@gmail.com">thompnickson2@gmail.com</a></u></span>
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Sry. Should be all commas.<br>
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1,3,5,6,8,10.12, __<br>
1.3.4,6,8,9,10, __<br>
Both have the same next number.<br>
Why, and what are we talking about here?<br>
I predict that only Jon will guess the answer.<br>
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