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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Experimentally, another reason to delete thread context from postings: Is the response to a prompt naïve or does it demonstrate meaning making?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Friam <friam-bounces@redfish.com> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve Smith<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 4, 2026 1:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> friam@redfish.com<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Dead Stack?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>OH AND: What was Owen's question. <o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Owen> Moltbook is fascinating, but what is it's purpose? Fear we'll be swarmed? Silly to the max? ...?</span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The fact that Owen responded to my prompt on-list is a sign-of-life I've not had from him in many years on-list. I had thought he had unsubscribed when WedTech formed? </span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>This implies he has been a "listener" here all along? I think we usually call such "lurkers", though if "listeners" are at a premium, we should de-stigmatize "Lurkers"? </span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Brunner's Shockwave Rider, "Hearing Aid" or "ten-nines" 999-999-9999 ?</span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white'>Precipice turns out to be a Utopian community of a few thousand people. The nearest comparison would be an agrarian, </span></i><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cottage_industry" title="Cottage industry"><span style='color:#3366CC;background:white;text-decoration:none'>cottage industry</span></a></span></i><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white'> community designed by </span></i><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Morris" title="William Morris"><span style='color:#3366CC;background:white;text-decoration:none'>William Morris</span></a></span></i><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white'>. Precipice is also the home of <b><u>Hearing Aid, an anonymous telephone confession service accessible to anyone in the country. Hearing Aid is also known as the "Ten Nines", after the phone number used to call it: 999-999-9999</u>.</b> People call the service, a human operator answers, and they simply talk while the operator listens. Some rant, others seek sympathy, still others commit suicide while on the phone. Hearing Aid's promise is that nobody else, not even the government, will hear the call. The only response Hearing Aid gives to a caller is "Only I heard that, I hope it helped."</span></i><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote><p><i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white'>-</span></i><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white'>excerpt from Wikipedia article</span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white'>nod to DaveW</span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white'>Re: our love-hate with LLMs (and other AI/deep-learning/diffusion) if they are acutely a-semantic, then they are NOT listeners though they appear/pretend (stochastic parrot-like) to be? If a long string of signifiers falls onto the LLM, but no-one is there to listen, did it make any meani</span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#202122;background:white'>ng?</span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>