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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/23/26 8:42 am, glen wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:180b6539-ff61-4c16-8454-9d832859c15c@gmail.com">FWIW:
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundary_object">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundary_object</a> <br>
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<p>And yes, my "negotiation artifact" variant is an extension
conceptually to include the point of an ongoing
negotiation/co-evolution of said "boundary object". </p>
<p>At one time I imagined "BNA" was a recieved term from some BO
adjacency, but it appears it is my own hallucination which
(continues to) work for me, even if it doesn't have a precedent in
the larger culture/literature.</p>
<p>In this context I suppose I posit a BNA to be "as good as it
gets"... something which lies roughly at the surface of one or
another markov blanket or perhaps at the impingement of two such
during an "attempt to communicate".</p>
<p>An MB in my apprehension is.an idealized artifact of agency which
is not as crisp as "boundary" would imply, and is an active
participant (vaguely a semantic transduction element) in
agent-agent as well as agent-environment communication.</p>
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<p>"<i>where boundary objects go to become players in agential
complexes"?</i></p>
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cite="mid:180b6539-ff61-4c16-8454-9d832859c15c@gmail.com"><br>
On 3/21/26 4:48 PM, Steve Smith wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite"> (extended from Sociology/Ethnography -
I find metaphors *in communication* to be most apt as "boundary
negotiation artifacts"... a placeholder for something we both
might understand idiosyncratically to our own personal domain
expertise/experience which we then begin to beat on (with a wet
noodle?) until we both are sufficiently exhausted or agree that
the thing held between us is "good enough for who it's for" in
the moment. <br>
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