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<p>In my own Metavoric/Ideaphoric style, I found myself following
the growing hyphae of Hesse's Glass Bead Game and Castalians (as
the ulitmate metavores) and Demster/Haraway's coinage of
sympoiesis (forgive earlier misspell) and and the very
meta-metaphor of Castalia/GBG and Autopoeisis as "fruiting bodies
which do not recognize or acknowledge the mycelia and mycorrhizal
networks from which they arise.</p>
<p>My brief skim of the linked article on Haraway's use of
Sympoiesis didn't note her reference to "the Chthulucene" nor it's
idiosyncratic spelling to evoke chthonic as well as Cthulhu -
curiouser and curiouser</p>
<p>provided by GPT</p>
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<td data-start="168" data-end="202" data-col-size="sm">earthy
/ underworld / deep-soil</td>
<td data-start="202" data-end="217" data-col-size="sm"><strong
data-start="204" data-end="216">chthonic</strong></td>
<td data-start="217" data-end="271" data-col-size="md">Greek
<strong data-start="225" data-end="242">\u03c7\u03b8\u03ce\u03bd / chth\u014dn</strong>,
earth, ground, underworld</td>
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<td data-start="272" data-end="298" data-col-size="sm">Lovecraft
monster/deity</td>
<td data-start="298" data-end="312" data-col-size="sm"><strong
data-start="300" data-end="311">Cthulhu</strong></td>
<td data-start="312" data-end="341" data-col-size="md">Lovecraft\u2019s
invented name</td>
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<td data-start="342" data-end="365" data-col-size="sm">Haraway\u2019s
epoch-word</td>
<td data-col-size="sm" data-start="365" data-end="383"><strong
data-start="367" data-end="382">Chthulucene</strong></td>
<td data-col-size="md" data-start="383" data-end="465">from
<strong data-start="390" data-end="402">chthonic</strong>
+ \u201c-cene,\u201d with deliberate tentacular resonance near
Cthulhu</td>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/21/26 12:25 pm, glen wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:78b1ef7d-24ae-4825-b24f-c159bee5ac69@gmail.com">Wasn't
me, was Roger who used "metavore". </blockquote>
Thanks for the correction... I *did* follow the earlier part of
the thread but somehow I heard it differently in your "voice"...
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:78b1ef7d-24ae-4825-b24f-c159bee5ac69@gmail.com">And I
agree, it's a cool word. Lovecraftian? Maybe. </blockquote>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:78b1ef7d-24ae-4825-b24f-c159bee5ac69@gmail.com">It's
appropriate for those of us who think there's something *more*
going on in humans than what's going on in machines. </blockquote>
Does "effing the ineffable" or "dualist/monist" threads here cover
that or is there (yet) another nuance?
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:78b1ef7d-24ae-4825-b24f-c159bee5ac69@gmail.com">Lovecraft's
horrible void is nearly identical to the TESCREALs' singularity,
hypercomputation, or McGilchrist's "right brain" stuff ... but
with a negative affect ... horror in the stead of wonder.</blockquote>
<p>With my distance from Lovecraft and all things "horror", I get
the sense that that community deliberately conflates horror and
wonder? A sort of deliberate inversion of affective "near
enemies"? When I consider (dismiss?) it this way, I'm not has
horrified by horror as my instincts/habits push me toward.
Maybe I'm softening to it, if not quite yet a convert.</p>
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:78b1ef7d-24ae-4825-b24f-c159bee5ac69@gmail.com">I
figure biology is reasoning and reasoning is biology. Also life
is mechanism and vice versa. But those mappings are way too
sloppy. Biology is a type of reasoning. The reasoning that
happens atop/within biology may be of a different type. </blockquote>
Symbolic thought might be life-itself's fruiting body: a visible,
spore-casting eruption from a mostly hidden mycelium of
metabolism, affect, sensorimotor coupling, social exchange, and
ecological constraint?
<blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:78b1ef7d-24ae-4825-b24f-c159bee5ac69@gmail.com">but
different how? You gesture to a bunch of stuff, which is fun.
But can you temporarily role-play 1 and run with it? <br>
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<p>I'm not sure if "1" indexed a specific element in my rant/rave
or if it was the generic "any one" but maybe I started that
above? My role play continues to be fungal.</p>
<p>I'd offer as an inflection point (dual to a tangent?) a nod to
a recent Guerin Conversation where he invoked Donna Haraway and
Sympoesis which I was surprised to find roots in more systems
science with Beth Demster?</p>
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<p><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://artsandculturalstudies.ku.dk/research/art-and-earth/environmental-humanities-glossary/sympoiesis/"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://artsandculturalstudies.ku.dk/research/art-and-earth/environmental-humanities-glossary/sympoiesis/</a></p>
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