<div dir="auto"><div>it looks like Gil was locked out of a secondary Gmail account: </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><a href="mailto:gork.skoal@gmail.com">gork.skoal@gmail.com</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature">____________________________________________<br>CEO Founder, Simtable.com<br><a href="mailto:stephen.guerin@simtable.com">stephen.guerin@simtable.com</a> <br><br>Harvard Visualization Research and Teaching Lab<br><a href="mailto:stephenguerin@fas.harvard.edu">stephenguerin@fas.harvard.edu</a><br><br>mobile: (505)577-5828</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 24, 2026, 4:07\u202fPM Eric Charles <<a href="mailto:eric.phillip.charles@gmail.com">eric.phillip.charles@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>I'll be honest... I'm not sure I found the big-text emails all that coherent. What I gathered is that you lost access to a gmail account, which I understand can be insanely frustrating. But clearly you have access to the gmail account you are using to email this list. </div><div><br></div><div>What I'm not sure about is what you think any of us can do about it. Are you demanding that someone here write a program to re-hack your email? If so, that's pretty far from anything my Ph.D. had anything to do with, and even if I could do that, I'm not sure I'd be inclined to discuss the problem in a fairly public forum. </div><div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Best,<br>Eric<br><br></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 10:20\u202fAM Gillian Densmore <<a href="mailto:gil.densmore@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gil.densmore@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Good morning Steve, 99% of the time I am 100% onboard with me(or anyone else) to keep it... middle of the road. And a big Mea Culpa for the many times that's been a issue. <div>This one time it's entirely as writing thing for my voice. That's why I wanted to warn people that'd have (some censored because..just the right to do) and still have, that voice to convey throught text. Because until the web develops more of that (with filters), because even as a style choice: no one wants there boss getting a WWF replay at lol.</div><div>And man thank also so much..</div><div><br></div><div>It...means, the world, you've done what other failed at: just read and listen. That's all I wanted. But it'salso not fair to have a arrogant company like google to steel my memories.:( I am just desperate for more peoplelike you at least read, and listen</div><div>I have tried man.</div><div>The forums have blocked me</div><div>Youtubers that know the stuff: radeo silence.</div><div>I have to have my memories and that drives contents ripped out of googles posesion, by any means necessary. And I do mean. ANY means. </div><div>Well legal routs are dwindling, and I will never ever let this go, not ever. I refuse to believe people with all there experience here can not help. I suspect. just suspect. for now. That is more disgusting: unwilling to help</div><div>Here's the dagger CO me.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 8:04\u202fAM Stephen Guerin <<a href="mailto:stephen.guerin@simtable.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stephen.guerin@simtable.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Gil,<br><br>I understand your frustration and have experienced it myself. The list probably is unable to help your challenges with restablishing your identity with Google or any corporate or govnernment system. <br><br>You do hae identity here, which is established through relations in the network with me, your father and your others in town who know you physically or through social links. If you were an anonymous member on the list, your messages would have been first throttled for pre approval or removed. On and off list I have asked you to tone down the language and venting on the list mainly for folks on the list who don't know you.<br><br>At a different level, we are thinking very concrelely on how identity works, webs of trust which is becoming esp important in the era of AI and the early promises of the decentralized web. And we think it goes beyond self-soveign identiy and to identity that is relational first. Of course this doesn't help your most immediate issues with Google.<br><br>You are in the top percentage of internet users that may be able to help develop and test decentralized hosting of our data and intel intel and identity management. eg you are comfortable installing your own local servers and warez. We may hit you up to help in the near future.<br><br>Love you, and tone it the F$%k down ;-)<br><br>-Stephen</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">_________________________________________________________________<br>Stephen Guerin<br>CEO, Founder <br><a href="https://simtable.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://simtable.com</a><br><a href="mailto:stephen.guerin@simtable.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stephen.guerin@simtable.com</a> <br><br><div><a href="mailto:stephenguerin@fas.harvard.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stephenguerin@fas.harvard.edu</a><br><a href="https://hwpi.harvard.edu/eps-visualization-research-laboratory/home" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Visualization Research and Teaching Lab</a><br>Harvard Earth and Planetary Science<br><a href="https://www.gsd.harvard.edu/2025/02/landscape-architecture-students-explore-pioneering-climate-visualization-techniques-to-inform-design/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">Landscape Architecture </a><br>Harvard Graduate School of Design<br><div><div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br>mobile: (505)577-5828</span></div><div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 6:22\u202fAM Gillian Densmore <<a href="mailto:gil.densmore@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gil.densmore@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><font size="6">NIB:</font><div><font size="6">What: me goatsed, somehow "hackers" (script kiddies i'd wager): have stolen my google account at: </font><span style="font-size:xx-large;background-color:transparent"><a href="mailto:gork.skoa@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gork.skoa@gmail.com</a></span><font size="6"><br></font><div><span style="font-size:xx-large;background-color:transparent">That one used for forums and basically where it's slop and spam.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:xx-large;background-color:transparent">the problem for the only and last time. Read and ask me or owen AMA. I will not repeat my myself beyond questions ok.</span></div><div><font size="6">somehow between all of googles pathetic fancy security bullshit. Me having one of the code generator authenticator things blah blah. I had been up to then using lastpass.</font></div><div><br></div><div><font size="6">The timeline</font></div><div><font size="6">Downloading music off of youtube with a opensoruced appcalled parabolic. (lounge music):</font></div><div><font size="6">Got kicked off line</font></div><div><font size="6">Checked comcast </font></div><div><font size="6">tried to log in</font></div><div><font size="6">and could not</font></div><div><font size="6">i am on android:</font></div><div><font size="6">I tried first last pass's authenticator that failed so did googles authenticator, (just incase I misread)</font></div><div><font size="6">I tried to clear the cache of Last Pass's Authenticator and reinstall (failed)</font></div><div><font size="6">I tried to clear the cache of Googles authenticator then tried to reinstall it.</font></div><div><font size="6">(nothing)</font></div><div><font size="6">I have tried literally all the ways I can try:</font></div><div><font size="6">passwords</font></div><div><font size="6">go to there "help" forum (just get ignored, like here) and they only link the shit google offers and there are loads of threads of how this is where gmail is pathetic: it assumes all kinds of stuff I guess, and they fail miserably: see also:</font></div><div><font size="6">the exact same problem</font></div><div><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/1pa4qza/my_account_is_being_held_hostage/" style="font-size:xx-large" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/1pa4qza/my_account_is_being_held_hostage/</a><font size="6"></font></div><div><br></div><div><font size="6"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/1v8lt93/gmail_got_hacked/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/1v8lt93/gmail_got_hacked/</a></font></div><div><div><br></div></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><font size="6">I do not care how. I just am now: demanding this gets unfucked.</font></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 6:00\u202fAM Gillian Densmore <<a href="mailto:gil.densmore@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gil.densmore@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I really like i've presented two real world problems...and crickets. Did everyone forget apply there fancy PHDs?<div><br><div>Linking the same failed things does not help me in anyway shape or form. And frankly it comes across as a slight and insult for someone to then go off onto some incoherent something,while there's a _real_ problem that you socalled PHD's with all kinds of programing skills and a very real applied fuckery from a god damn secruity failure. </div><div>So once again</div><div>From the top</div><div>One of my google acounts: goatse'd between god knows what and who knows what about 2 weeks ago and since thenI have been bashing my head agains the same fucking wall of trying to get people to help me beyond a link I have said 9999 times I have tried all those things. I now need some help with where the hell go to for real actual help: </div><div>Is it a lawyer?</div><div>Is it a ghost?</div><div>A white hat?</div><div>Someone named tod</div><div>Who</div><div>what</div><div>and where</div><div>That will get me some god damn traction on my problem do I contact. Once I know that. I will happily let you people go back to what ever it was that Jofr guy posted.</div></div><div>No I will not StFU untill this problem has all hands, actually helping wich is what i have been SCREAMING for and will not StFU about until this problem is fixed.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 4:26\u202fPM Gillian Densmore <<a href="mailto:gil.densmore@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gil.densmore@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">that's...the problem literally nothing at google works. -_- </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 10:08\u202fAM jofr <<a href="mailto:jofr@cas-group.net" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">jofr@cas-group.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto">I would try to contact Google support or follow the guidelines on the official help pages. Good luck</div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/7682439?hl=en" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/7682439?hl=en</a></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">-J.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div align="left" dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Gillian Densmore <<a href="mailto:gil.densmore@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gil.densmore@gmail.com</a>> </div><div>Date: 8/12/26 5:51 PM (GMT+01:00) </div><div>To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">friam@redfish.com</a>> </div><div>Subject: [FRIAM] Despite my betterr judgement I don't know who else to ask </div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><font size="6">google:</font><div><font size="6">someone or something has hijacked my account</font></div><div><font size="6">-despite 2fa (that's actually being a ******** problem)</font></div><div><font size="6">-despite a software passkey hack (see above)</font></div><div><font size="6">-despite lastpass (getting to that ****** in the ******** in a second)</font></div><div><font size="6">etc etc.</font></div><div><font size="6">Problem</font></div><div><font size="6">-about 14-16 days ago i was on youtube getting a bunch of music. something happened and I was kicked off line and tried to log back in:</font></div><div><font size="6">then i was ******* of several accounts and no ia m not going to clean up or sanitize just how raw this going to be.</font></div><div><font size="6">Level M warning intensity HEAVILY implied.</font></div><div><font size="6">You have been warned.</font></div><div><font size="6">In short: </font></div><div><font size="6">me on youtube getting a bunch of music: got kicked out of an account at</font></div><div><font size="6"><a href="mailto:gork.skoal@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">gork.skoal@gmail.com</a></font></div><div><font size="6">alt account for forums and stuff </font></div><div><font size="6">problems in no particular order:</font></div><div><font size="6">-> password I have in cache wrong,</font></div><div><font size="6">-> last pass: can't get in because</font></div><div><font size="6">-> my authenticator stuff on my ****** google f'n account something from those keys wasn't working and I made the mistake of thinking it was androids normal fuckin' bullshit so I just cleared it's cache and tried to reinstall: I could not do that. </font></div><div><font size="6">->I've tried: litterally any fucking way to get throughg gmails: "try this other" way all those none of that worked</font></div><div><font size="6">-> I have tried there youtube reset in the vein hope that'd work to get into my ********* google ******** drive. no luck there</font></div><div><font size="6">-> I have tried the forums: that is the most usless fucking bullshit it's just there to fuck you over and let me tell you it works;</font></div><div><font size="6">-> they don't really help they just link you to a mega thread posted here thing: oh google doesn't have: anything normal no otp, no text, nothing zero zilch nada.</font></div><div><font size="6">-> ok so youtube might be a back door it's the only thing they seem ****** care about. so I tried that: you have some kind handle and unchangeable url messy url shades of wordpress thing: Ok gave it to them, a stupid ai chat bot etc.</font></div><div><font size="6">-> not a fucking thing has worked</font></div><div><font size="6">like I have told everyone that'll listen: i don't give a fuck about the contents of my god dam inbox: it's motly spam. really I i just have got to recover: travel pictures, some shit from world con, and family picture, all kinds neet little things: meh amature quality but...thee my ******* memories and I am disgusted with google. ok. I do not want a fucking thing to do with them ever again. <br>i am begging anyone here and I i don't know what kind of bounty you'll or pretty decently big boon I can offer so someone can help unfuck this bullshit and get the fucking dick out of my fucking ass so I can get my god damn files.</font></div><div><font size="6">what the hell do I need to do to convince those alabastered motherfuckers to unass my fucking shit I do not care about the email Imean yeah, anyoing. but ayaya 67 it's friz, i ya know setting up a fresh digital footprint: yeah I dig brotha' that's a vibe, and starting fresh: why not, make it fun? ya know, but I will not relent on getting the stuff that matters: my fucking loot, my precious memories in a torrent. on local nas. I do not care what. I just have got to have them protected and back. and are disgusted how fucked up this is being just to get my life story back.</font></div><div><font size="6">pls man someone help me. You can go thrugh my dad (owen) if ya'all would rather even- I just have to have that stuft</font></div><div><font size="6"><br></font></div></div>
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