<div dir="ltr">Ah! yes well point taken that sigh as lame as it is..er so umm...we we're umm I believe you said: So you know those things called singlularies...and there angery uncle Blackwhole and (as yet found) trippy aunt: the whitehole:...so where might I go to find fun videos about whiteholes?<br><br><div><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug 27, 2026 at 4:10\u202fPM Marcus Daniels <<a href="mailto:marcus@snoutfarm.com">marcus@snoutfarm.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="msg-3863484691127626840"><div lang="EN-US" style="overflow-wrap: break-word;"><div class="m_-3863484691127626840WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">Claude in Chrome can indeed be useful for navigating complicated IT systems. Also it may have seen other scenarios like this in its training. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div style="border-width:1pt medium medium;border-style:solid none none;border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> Friam <<a href="mailto:friam-bounces@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam-bounces@redfish.com</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jochen Fromm<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 27, 2026 3:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [FRIAM] Despite my betterr judgement I don't know who else to ask<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Gil, we would like to help you recover your account, but we do not want to be involved in any kind of illegal activity or hacking. I can try to explain you how quantum mechanics works - although the others would know it probably better than me - or help you solve a programming question - but people now use Claude anyway. Or I could try to show you Berlin if you should come here. But we cannot help you getting access to a lost account which belongs to a big corporation. Only they have access. For these big corporations a single user doesn't matter.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes, <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Jochen<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-------- Original message --------<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">From: Gillian Densmore <<a href="mailto:gil.densmore@gmail.com" target="_blank">gil.densmore@gmail.com</a>> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Date: 8/27/26 11:15 PM (GMT+01:00) <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Despite my betterr judgement I don't know who else to ask <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Pardon the large font. it is not a troll. <span class="m_-3863484691127626840lm"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">it's</span></span> because of aging and needing to update my glasses and I for one find it a lot easier to read on a 2k res monitor, so I am attempting to be helpful. If I am wrong. let me know.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">The TLDR <span class="m_-3863484691127626840lm"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">somehow someone stole</span></span> tons of <span class="m_-3863484691127626840lm"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">personal a data</span></span>,emails, and passwords, in one of several <span class="m_-3863484691127626840ng"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">particularly</span></span> violent and deep data theft <span class="m_-3863484691127626840li"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">vioolations</span></span>. In my case the proverbial nuke started at google, and then the blast radius (other potential systems they can get into) spread from there. When I initially asked I thought that I had to try to recover a few terrible pictures that have a grip of sentimental value i can not replace: for those who don't know how <span class="m_-3863484691127626840lm"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">googles</span></span> thing works you have basically a big box that can hold email (gmail) or or stuff (<span class="m_-3863484691127626840li"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">googledrive</span></span>) the part I had asked about: is the google drive part specifically google pictures.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">so TLDR (again) is:</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-3863484691127626840lm"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">as put</span></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt"> it to my aunt "</span> .<b><i><span style="font-family:Roboto">petaQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! </span></i></b><i><span style="font-family:Roboto"> </span></i><span style="font-family:Roboto">ferengi up and <span class="m_-3863484691127626840lm"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">broke</span></span> <span class="m_-3863484691127626840lm"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">into my all</span></span> <span class="m_-3863484691127626840lm"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">kinds my personal</span></span> data: including bank and gmail. (Hilariously enough Steam. The Game hosting platform kind. gave them the redshirt treatment faster than a ferengi caught stealing from a Klingon). So that leads me to requesting kinds <span class="m_-3863484691127626840lm"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">sir</span></span> virtual (holographic remotes)." </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">so the outline is basically this</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-3863484691127626840li"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">googledrive</span></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt">(locke/hacked/stolen/<span class="m_-3863484691127626840li"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">heldhostage</span></span>/and otherwise <span class="m_-3863484691127626840li"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">esonsed</span></span> like a <span class="m_-3863484691127626840li"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">fereng</span></span> petaQ with <span class="m_-3863484691127626840lm"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">what ever</span></span> it is google needs in order to believe me (Lord [BLANK] Gillian Densmore) is the dude that is the right and proper owner of <a href="mailto:gork.skoal@gmail.com" target="_blank">gork.skoal@gmail.com</a> (the personal data etc <span class="m_-3863484691127626840li"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">atached</span></span> to it) and were able to attempt to go on to hack into (cringe) <span class="m_-3863484691127626840lm"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">what ever</span></span> other related systems they {grawlix here} wanted to. aka DOCKED/DOXED</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">----------------------------------------------->pictures:----------------------------->pictures from world con (oof but.) pictures of grandpa and grandma (high sentimental partially me much more so my dad and co) because he is ummm how I put this...in </span><span class="m_-3863484691127626840eujqnb"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto">Suto'vo'qor</span></span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-3863484691127626840lm"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto;border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">So yes.</span></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Roboto"> a earnest ask Gud Fur, danke. Der. </span><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Das Problem ist Folgendes: Die Schritte unter der URL zur Selbsthilfe funktionieren nicht. 2FA: Fehlanzeige. OTP: Was ist das? etc etc. the attackers managed to make <span class="m_-3863484691127626840lm"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">there</span></span> 2FA <span class="m_-3863484691127626840lm"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">stuff</span></span> think I am not not <span class="m_-3863484691127626840lm"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">a idiot</span></span> named Gil. They even tried to convince BoFa I don't have an account and it took a scary long amount of time before <span class="m_-3863484691127626840lm"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">there</span></span> security kicked them out. and I had used biometrics. same with amazon and lots more. What's scary. Ok <span class="m_-3863484691127626840li"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">explination</span></span> and context for what follows time! I love this thing called Steam (hosting platform etc) TLDR: Valve: guys that made <span class="m_-3863484691127626840li"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">hafl-life</span></span> and a few other things run cloud thing called steam it hosts games. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_(service)" target="_blank">Steam-the games company kind!</a> <br> Steam didn't even let them get past the password screen, they notified pretty insanely fast and basically locked out the intruders.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_-3863484691127626840lm"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">So um ja</span></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt"> <span class="m_-3863484691127626840lm"><span style="border:1pt windowtext;padding:0in">Lass</span></span> uns bei Google einbrechen! Ich bringe die Brechstange, du holst die Tastatur. </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Und,Danke Steve-</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Aug 27, 2026 at 2:13<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">\u202f</span>PM Eric Charles <<a href="mailto:eric.phillip.charles@gmail.com" target="_blank">eric.phillip.charles@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal">Yes, that is the part I understood. But it seemed like they thought someone on the list should be able to write a... I guess a computer program to... I guess to fix that... somehow... <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I get the need to vent frustration sometimes... but was there an actual serious ask? Is the request for someone to try to brute-force hack gmail on her behalf, or something worse? <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Or was it just a semi-coherent all-caps "old-man yells at clouds" meme? <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Best,<br>Eric</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Aug 24, 2026 at 9:40<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">\u202f</span>PM Stephen Guerin <<a href="mailto:stephen.guerin@simtable.com" target="_blank">stephen.guerin@simtable.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal">it looks like Gil was locked out of a secondary Gmail account: <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:gork.skoal@gmail.com" target="_blank">gork.skoal@gmail.com</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">____________________________________________<br>CEO Founder, Simtable.com<br><a href="mailto:stephen.guerin@simtable.com" target="_blank">stephen.guerin@simtable.com</a> <br><br>Harvard Visualization Research and Teaching Lab<br><a href="mailto:stephenguerin@fas.harvard.edu" target="_blank">stephenguerin@fas.harvard.edu</a><br><br>mobile: (505)577-5828<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Aug 24, 2026, 4:07<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">\u202f</span>PM Eric Charles <<a href="mailto:eric.phillip.charles@gmail.com" target="_blank">eric.phillip.charles@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal">I'll be honest... I'm not sure I found the big-text emails all that coherent. What I gathered is that you lost access to a gmail account, which I understand can be insanely frustrating. But clearly you have access to the gmail account you are using to email this list. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">What I'm not sure about is what you think any of us can do about it. Are you demanding that someone here write a program to re-hack your email? If so, that's pretty far from anything my Ph.D. had anything to do with, and even if I could do that, I'm not sure I'd be inclined to discuss the problem in a fairly public forum. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">Best,<br>Eric</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 10:20<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">\u202f</span>AM Gillian Densmore <<a href="mailto:gil.densmore@gmail.com" target="_blank">gil.densmore@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal">Good morning Steve, 99% of the time I am 100% onboard with me(or anyone else) to keep it... middle of the road. And a big Mea Culpa for the many times that's been a issue. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">This one time it's entirely as writing thing for my voice. That's why I wanted to warn people that'd have (some censored because..just the right to do) and still have, that voice to convey throught text. Because until the web develops more of that (with filters), because even as a style choice: no one wants there boss getting a WWF replay at lol.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">And man thank also so much..<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">It...means, the world, you've done what other failed at: just read and listen. That's all I wanted. But it'salso not fair to have a arrogant company like google to steel my memories.:( I am just desperate for more peoplelike you at least read, and listen<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I have tried man.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">The forums have blocked me<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Youtubers that know the stuff: radeo silence.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I have to have my memories and that drives contents ripped out of googles posesion, by any means necessary. And I do mean. ANY means. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Well legal routs are dwindling, and I will never ever let this go, not ever. I refuse to believe people with all there experience here can not help. I suspect. just suspect. for now. That is more disgusting: unwilling to help<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Here's the dagger CO me.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 8:04<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">\u202f</span>AM Stephen Guerin <<a href="mailto:stephen.guerin@simtable.com" target="_blank">stephen.guerin@simtable.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal">Gil,<br><br>I understand your frustration and have experienced it myself. The list probably is unable to help your challenges with restablishing your identity with Google or any corporate or govnernment system. <br><br>You do hae identity here, which is established through relations in the network with me, your father and your others in town who know you physically or through social links. If you were an anonymous member on the list, your messages would have been first throttled for pre approval or removed. On and off list I have asked you to tone down the language and venting on the list mainly for folks on the list who don't know you.<br><br>At a different level, we are thinking very concrelely on how identity works, webs of trust which is becoming esp important in the era of AI and the early promises of the decentralized web. And we think it goes beyond self-soveign identiy and to identity that is relational first. Of course this doesn't help your most immediate issues with Google.<br><br>You are in the top percentage of internet users that may be able to help develop and test decentralized hosting of our data and intel intel and identity management. eg you are comfortable installing your own local servers and warez. We may hit you up to help in the near future.<br><br>Love you, and tone it the F$%k down ;-)<br><br>-Stephen<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">_________________________________________________________________<br>Stephen Guerin<br>CEO, Founder <br><a href="https://simtable.com" target="_blank">https://simtable.com</a><br><a href="mailto:stephen.guerin@simtable.com" target="_blank">stephen.guerin@simtable.com</a> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:stephenguerin@fas.harvard.edu" target="_blank">stephenguerin@fas.harvard.edu</a><br><a href="https://hwpi.harvard.edu/eps-visualization-research-laboratory/home" target="_blank">Visualization Research and Teaching Lab</a><br>Harvard Earth and Planetary Science<br><a href="https://www.gsd.harvard.edu/2025/02/landscape-architecture-students-explore-pioneering-climate-visualization-techniques-to-inform-design/" target="_blank">Landscape Architecture </a><br>Harvard Graduate School of Design<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.5pt"><br>mobile: (505)577-5828</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 6:22<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">\u202f</span>AM Gillian Densmore <<a href="mailto:gil.densmore@gmail.com" target="_blank">gil.densmore@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">NIB:</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">What: me goatsed, somehow "hackers" (script kiddies i'd wager): have stolen my google account at: </span><span style="font-size:36pt"><a href="mailto:gork.skoa@gmail.com" target="_blank">gork.skoa@gmail.com</a></span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:36pt">That one used for forums and basically where it's slop and spam.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:36pt">the problem for the only and last time. Read and ask me or owen AMA. I will not repeat my myself beyond questions ok.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">somehow between all of googles pathetic fancy security bullshit. Me having one of the code generator authenticator things blah blah. I had been up to then using lastpass.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">The timeline</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">Downloading music off of youtube with a opensoruced appcalled parabolic. (lounge music):</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">Got kicked off line</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">Checked comcast </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">tried to log in</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">and could not</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">i am on android:</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">I tried first last pass's authenticator that failed so did googles authenticator, (just incase I misread)</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">I tried to clear the cache of Last Pass's Authenticator and reinstall (failed)</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">I tried to clear the cache of Googles authenticator then tried to reinstall it.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">(nothing)</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">I have tried literally all the ways I can try:</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">passwords</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">go to there "help" forum (just get ignored, like here) and they only link the shit google offers and there are loads of threads of how this is where gmail is pathetic: it assumes all kinds of stuff I guess, and they fail miserably: see also:</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">the exact same problem</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/1pa4qza/my_account_is_being_held_hostage/" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:36pt">https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/1pa4qza/my_account_is_being_held_hostage/</span></a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt"><a href="https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/1v8lt93/gmail_got_hacked/" target="_blank">https://www.reddit.com/r/GMail/comments/1v8lt93/gmail_got_hacked/</a></span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">I do not care how. I just am now: demanding this gets unfucked.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Aug 13, 2026 at 6:00<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">\u202f</span>AM Gillian Densmore <<a href="mailto:gil.densmore@gmail.com" target="_blank">gil.densmore@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal">I really like i've presented two real world problems...and crickets. Did everyone forget apply there fancy PHDs?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Linking the same failed things does not help me in anyway shape or form. And frankly it comes across as a slight and insult for someone to then go off onto some incoherent something,while there's a _real_ problem that you socalled PHD's with all kinds of programing skills and a very real applied fuckery from a god damn secruity failure. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">So once again<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">From the top<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">One of my google acounts: goatse'd between god knows what and who knows what about 2 weeks ago and since thenI have been bashing my head agains the same fucking wall of trying to get people to help me beyond a link I have said 9999 times I have tried all those things. I now need some help with where the hell go to for real actual help: <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Is it a lawyer?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Is it a ghost?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">A white hat?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Someone named tod<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Who<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">what<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">and where<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">That will get me some god damn traction on my problem do I contact. Once I know that. I will happily let you people go back to what ever it was that Jofr guy posted.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">No I will not StFU untill this problem has all hands, actually helping wich is what i have been SCREAMING for and will not StFU about until this problem is fixed.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 4:26<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">\u202f</span>PM Gillian Densmore <<a href="mailto:gil.densmore@gmail.com" target="_blank">gil.densmore@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal">that's...the problem literally nothing at google works. -_- <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Aug 12, 2026 at 10:08<span style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif">\u202f</span>AM jofr <<a href="mailto:jofr@cas-group.net" target="_blank">jofr@cas-group.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border-width:medium medium medium 1pt;border-style:none none none solid;border-color:currentcolor currentcolor currentcolor rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class="MsoNormal">I would try to contact Google support or follow the guidelines on the official help pages. Good luck<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/7682439?hl=en" target="_blank">https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/7682439?hl=en</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">-J.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">-------- Original message --------<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">From: Gillian Densmore <<a href="mailto:gil.densmore@gmail.com" target="_blank">gil.densmore@gmail.com</a>> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Date: 8/12/26 5:51 PM (GMT+01:00) <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <<a href="mailto:friam@redfish.com" target="_blank">friam@redfish.com</a>> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Subject: [FRIAM] Despite my betterr judgement I don't know who else to ask <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">google:</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">someone or something has hijacked my account</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">-despite 2fa (that's actually being a ******** problem)</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">-despite a software passkey hack (see above)</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">-despite lastpass (getting to that ****** in the ******** in a second)</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">etc etc.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">Problem</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">-about 14-16 days ago i was on youtube getting a bunch of music. something happened and I was kicked off line and tried to log back in:</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">then i was ******* of several accounts and no ia m not going to clean up or sanitize just how raw this going to be.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">Level M warning intensity HEAVILY implied.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">You have been warned.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">In short: </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">me on youtube getting a bunch of music: got kicked out of an account at</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt"><a href="mailto:gork.skoal@gmail.com" target="_blank">gork.skoal@gmail.com</a></span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">alt account for forums and stuff </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">problems in no particular order:</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">-> password I have in cache wrong,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">-> last pass: can't get in because</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">-> my authenticator stuff on my ****** google f'n account something from those keys wasn't working and I made the mistake of thinking it was androids normal fuckin' bullshit so I just cleared it's cache and tried to reinstall: I could not do that. </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">->I've tried: litterally any fucking way to get throughg gmails: "try this other" way all those none of that worked</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">-> I have tried there youtube reset in the vein hope that'd work to get into my ********* google ******** drive. no luck there</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">-> I have tried the forums: that is the most usless fucking bullshit it's just there to fuck you over and let me tell you it works;</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">-> they don't really help they just link you to a mega thread posted here thing: oh google doesn't have: anything normal no otp, no text, nothing zero zilch nada.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">-> ok so youtube might be a back door it's the only thing they seem ****** care about. so I tried that: you have some kind handle and unchangeable url messy url shades of wordpress thing: Ok gave it to them, a stupid ai chat bot etc.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">-> not a fucking thing has worked</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">like I have told everyone that'll listen: i don't give a fuck about the contents of my god dam inbox: it's motly spam. really I i just have got to recover: travel pictures, some shit from world con, and family picture, all kinds neet little things: meh amature quality but...thee my ******* memories and I am disgusted with google. ok. I do not want a fucking thing to do with them ever again. <br>i am begging anyone here and I i don't know what kind of bounty you'll or pretty decently big boon I can offer so someone can help unfuck this bullshit and get the fucking dick out of my fucking ass so I can get my god damn files.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">what the hell do I need to do to convince those alabastered motherfuckers to unass my fucking shit I do not care about the email Imean yeah, anyoing. but ayaya 67 it's friz, i ya know setting up a fresh digital footprint: yeah I dig brotha' that's a vibe, and starting fresh: why not, make it fun? ya know, but I will not relent on getting the stuff that matters: my fucking loot, my precious memories in a torrent. on local nas. I do not care what. I just have got to have them protected and back. and are disgusted how fucked up this is being just to get my life story back.</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:24pt">pls man someone help me. 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