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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">EricC wrote:</div>
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<div>In the late 1800s and early 1900s in the U.S. the liberals
and the<i> </i>progressives mostly had the same agenda, and
that somehow got everything confused, and the terms locked
into place in a really weird way. If anything, this time
around, the Trump administration is solidly "progressive
autocratic", but our zeitgeist can't really handle that
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<p>And I think Hitler and Mussolini and Stalin (or their
political/governance machines) all fit that trope? War machine,
Industrial machine, and Agricultural machine each jammed into
existence through authoritarian coordination?</p>
<p>(one of) My current fascinations is in zoids and whether humans
are nominally such in our in(ter)dependency with one another,
infrastructure, religious, political, professional, cultural
affiliations...</p>
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