[FRIAM] scraping a web site

Wed Jan 4 15:17:53 EST 2017

Nick,

A lot of good ideas here.  I will just add one more.  For what you are
doing, from what I can tell, you may do well with a so-called non-database
Content Management System like Kirby <https://getkirby.com/>.  There are
scores of these out there now
<http://www.readerspark.com/non-database-content-management-systems/>, many
being free.  I have some experience with Kirby.  It was just $40 ($17 now I
think) and very easy to use and very good support.  It is file-folder
based, very intuitive and has been around for a while. Essentially, being
file-based, if you can build a Windows directory, you can build a decent
website.  They have some examples of some very minimalist ways to go.

As Owen say, you do need to figure out how you are going to get it into the
sky, so to speak. I have been using HostGtor for years, but there are
others.

Glen,

A good steer to the File Manager plugins to get to the backend from the
Admin Panel in WordPress.   I installed WP File Manager (free), but the Pro
version looks like what one really needs if, say, you want to do some code
editing. This is useful.

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Owen Densmore <owen at backspaces.net> wrote:

> Hi Nick, glad you recovered your site.
>
> In terms of going forward, there are lots of changes in the blog-o-sphere.
> Two things to consider:
>
> 1 - Content: I.e. what do you want your site to be? Is it mainly "static
> pages" or does it need bells and whistles like wordpress or other CMS's
> (Content Management Systems) supply. You might consider Markdown rather
> than an HTML editor. It is a simple text format that uses a specific format
> to build pages.
>
> 2 - Deployment: I.e. how do you get it into the sky! Hosting services are
> a dime a dozen and many of them are OK. They are fairly easy to use via a
> "dashboard". There are several free stunts too, like github pages, zeit
> now, medium.com and so on.
>
> The latter free sites generally solve both issues but then you have to
> play their game.
>
> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 11:10 AM, Gillian Densmore <gil.densmore at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Nick yes it called giving me a call. I don't know how you set it up.  In
>> short it's a very routine thing to do. Wit
>> I'd do it for you for free because I consider you a friend.
>>
>> Thier's always some Oops when you do so. And it depends on how you, fam,
>> and or friends set it up. I
>>
>> -Wordpress (for example) now has some rocking tools specifically for
>> moving between Weby Web  hosts.
>>
>> -Basic HTML is pretty portable, But again it depends entirely on how you
>> or a friend set it up.
>>
>> If you can oldschool FTP to earthlink just download it. From experience
>> it's a good idea to start the new web-host upload it, to make sure you
>> didn't miss something.
>>
>> Robert Corginger hit the nail on the head. In simple speak
>> Web-making-tools such as the OG DreamWeaver and Wordpress (as of 4.6) have
>> a variety of tools to move it around. I swear by Database->Files Folder
>> Plugins for wordpress for that reason.
>> But needless to say you do have options.
>>
>> As to what host? That's a matter of taste and how much you want to play
>> Admin.  Like I said to Steve. I LOVE to have Wordpress on Gilsplace.net
>> just to keep up with trying out setting up  or keeping up a website.
>>  BUT for just a quick article or rave or geeking out?
>> Wordpress.com all theway. Wix and Weebly (however that's spelled) are a
>> close tie though.
>> Because they just work.
>> For what it's worth ipage.net AmazonCloud,  get rave reviews. namecheap
>> in my experience isn't to bad. help is a totall crap shoot though.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 10:28 AM, glen ep ropella <gepr at tempusdictum.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hey Nick,
>>>
>>> I went ahead and downloaded your page(s) and put it up here:
>>>
>>>   http://agent-based-modeling.com/ntnd/nickthompson/naturaldes
>>> igns/index.html
>>>
>>> Let me know if I've missed anything.  I'm happy to help move it wherever.
>>>
>>> -glen
>>>
>>> On 01/03/2017 08:49 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:
>>> > I am in the uncomfortable position of being bound by threads of steel
>>> to Earthlink.  Many, MANY, years I go I started a website on Earthlink, {
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ <
>>> http://home.earthlink.net/%7Enickthompson/naturaldesigns/>
>>> >
>>> > }, and put a lot of my writing, and some commentary up on it.  The
>>> website creation and editing medium (trellix) was pretty good for its time,
>>> and there are many ways that I find the site quite satisfying.  But
>>> gradually Earthlink has withdrawn its support, and now I am not sure I
>>> could get in to edit or change it.  Meantime, Research Gate has gotten
>>> started, and provides a somewhat better place to meet the world and archive
>>> my stuff.  And also, having the site on earthlink binds me to them and
>>> their 22 dollar a month fee.  So. …
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I am wondering if there is a way (or a service that would) scrape the
>>> website and, possibly, dump it into a new and more reliable, more website
>>> creation medium?  Please, ambulatory knowledge only.  I don’t want a people
>>> doing deep searches to answer this  question .
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> glen ep ropella ⊥ 971-280-5699
>>>
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