[FRIAM] Is the new president mentally ill?

[Jochen Fromm]

Courageous people like professor Klemperer or bishop von Galen remind us what is right and what is wrong, even after all these years. Hannah Szenes, a Jewish resistance fighter in WWII allegedly said
"There are stars who's light only reaches the earth long after they have fallen appart. There are people who's remembrance gives light in this world, long after they have passed away. This light shines in our darkest nights on the road we must follow."
-J.
-------- Original message --------From: Jochen Fromm <jofr at cas-group.net> Date: 1/12/17  08:24  (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Is the new president mentally ill? 
Meryl Streep reminds me of Clemens August Graf von Galen, who was one of the few bishops that had the courage to criticize the Nazi regime. He was a bishop in my hometown Münster near the Dutch border. In his sermons he criticized that the Nazis were killing innocent disabled people. The program was named T4. The Nazis let him live because he was too popular among the people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clemens_August_Graf_von_Galen
Many other priests and bishops were imprisoned by the Gestapo  (the secret state police) in concentration camps and died. In St. Hedwig's cathedral in Berlin many of those are mentioned on memorial plagues. While it may be futile to resist, those who have the courage to do it are not forgotten. 
It can also help to document the things that are unfolding, the violations of human rights, the corruption, and the injustice. In Dresden there was a Jewish professor Victor Klemperer who covered the actions of the Nazi regime in his diaries and journals. He was an important witness of all the injustice that happened. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Klemperer
-J.

-------- Original message --------From: glen ☣ <gepropella at gmail.com> Date: 1/12/17  02:07  (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Is the new president mentally ill? 

But the question is what actions are guided by remote diagnosis?  I admit that I hope high visibility shaming like that from Streep, when added to the rest of the stress he will be / has been under, will make him go away.  But it's not likely for the same reasons Steve cites that blame and stigma won't really work on him.

I suppose if we could really confirm that he's a particular type of narcissist, then we could build models of what he may or may not do and choose actions based on their expected efficacy.  But because, almost by definition, everyone who willingly runs for President is a narcissist of some sort or other and to differing extent, that diagnosis isn't helpful.

Listening to the confirmation hearings is more helpful, I think.  Take note of all the (many) issues where Trump and his appointees express diametrically opposite positions.  Focus on those fissures.  At best, his administration will shatter.  At worst, the more distance you can put between the incompetent Cheeto and the competent people surrounding him, the more likely we'll end up with a Bush2 or a late-stage-Reagan ... maybe not good, but not catastrophic.

On 01/11/2017 03:34 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote:
> Eric I believe you are wrong if you believe you can have a narcissistic person on your site. A narcissist cares only for himself. The policy of Trump boils down to "I'm great and you're not unless you are like me, myself and I, you loser". There is no way how he can make the country great again. As Paul Krugman said America will turn into some form of authoritarianism, into a Trumpistan nightmare at best. 
> Mr. Trump does not only have a brand, he *is* a brand, a brand that says "I'm great". If you stay in this Trump hotel you are great. If you play on this Trump golf course you are great, too. But it is just a facade. It is based on lies, and there is nothing behind the shiny facade except emptiness. Therefore he seems to hit back immediately if someone damages his image and his brand, because he ceases to exist if his image is destroyed. He and his brand have become undistinguishable.
> Marketing is no way to make America great again, Google has already an OS for ads, and the American corporations excel in marketing, especially the fast food chains. What will he do, build a Trump hotel in every city, a Trump golf course in every national park? This would be a total Trumpistan nightmare. Better than the nuclear apocalypse, but who would want such a future...


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☣ glen

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