[FRIAM] Cold War Jitters Resurface as U.S. Marines Arrive in Norway - The New York Times

[Owen Densmore]

I think Kim's response bounced so I'm remailing it here:

*From:* Kim Sorvig [mailto:sorvig at cybermesa.com]
*Sent:* Tuesday, January 17, 2017 2:21 PM
*To:* 'Owen Densmore'; 'Complexity Coffee Group'; 'Kim Sorvig'
*Subject:* RE: Cold War Jitters Resurface as U.S. Marines Arrive in Norway
- The New York Times



My friends in Norway are of an age to remember the Cold War - but for them,
Russia was literally next door, across a line on the ground.  Their parents
remembered both Hitler and Stalin, and especially the Nazi take-over of
Norway.


Oil wealth has only increased the odds that some Russian will decide they
must annex Norway.


And I suspect many are concerned that Pres. Voldemort will prefer being
pals with Hijo de Putin over protecting NATO allies.



So yes, as far as such speculations go, I would say this is one of the
least fantastical ones out there at the moment.

Kim Sorvig

On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Vladimyr Burachynsky <vburach at shaw.ca>
wrote:

> The New York Times article seems to conflate geography like a party game,
> Twister. It starts in Norway switches to Sweden, Finland, Lithuania
> Kalingrad and keeps returning to fear and Russia.
>
> They should have provided a map to keep track of the game pieces.
>
>
>
> The Norwegians share an interest in smuggling Atlantic Salmon fillets to
> Muscovites who smoke it.
>
> Russians smuggle bicycles to Norway pedal-powered by Syrian refugees.
>
> The Lithuanians smuggle cigarettes from Russia. The Russians smuggle wild
> Mushrooms (Boletus edulis) and furs  to Europe
>
> The Russians also used to smuggle High Grade Birch Plywood through Finland
> and on to the entire world.
>
> The Russians used to smuggle mammoth Ivory to Alaska. Canada smuggled
> Grass to the USA.
>
> The Polish Merchant Marine Ships used to smuggle Vodka (Spiritus) into
> Canada.
>
> And all Baltic States  smuggle Amber and Herrings.
>
> The Ukrainians smuggle well heeled Syrians from Russia to Slovakia flying
> Russian Helicopters at tree top heights through the Carpathian Mts.
>
> They used to smuggle diamonds out of and Moldavian Guns into , Africa.
>
> Well if America needs to train soldiers in Arctic conditions what was
> wrong with Alaska or North Dakota.
>
> Perhaps militarism is bad for all smugglers. Seems sanctions only served
> smugglers.
>
> vib.
>
>
>
> *From:* Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Owen
> Densmore
> *Sent:* January-17-17 11:15 AM
> *To:* Complexity Coffee Group; Kim Sorvig
> *Subject:* [FRIAM] Cold War Jitters Resurface as U.S. Marines Arrive in
> Norway - The New York Times
>
>
>
> Does this make any sense? Are Norwegians concerned about a Russian
> invasion? Sounds nuts.
>
> ​    ​
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/16/world/europe/norway-us-
> russia-marines.html
>
>
>
> ​Poland recently​ received US military folks too:
>
>   https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/world/europe/as-
> trump-reaches-toward-putin-us-troops-arrive-in-poland.html
>
>
>
> It seems to be NATO sponsored but why US troops?
>
>
>
> I'm a bit spooked.
>
>
>
> ​   -- Owen​
>
>
>
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