[FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

Fri Jan 27 12:01:02 EST 2017

I think of "culture is what you take for granted" and you fine yourself a
bit taken aback or surprised when your culture stumbles across aspects in
other cultures that you *don't* take for granted. Not unpleasant or
threatening, just "oh, looka that!".

I think about what I called "our" kind of globalism as part of our culture,
one that takes for granted daily constructive interactive world wide (is
Friam Santa Fe or NM minority yet, or even close to US minority? .. I hope
so!).

This runs deep and we do and should take it for granted: Email, Twitter,
GitHub, Open Software issues & fixes, getting/giving help globally.

And I suspect all of us have a "second language" making it easier to be
more deeply involved with another geographical culture. For example, when I
read of the recent earthquakes in Italy, I sent email to friends w/in 80km
of the site asking if everything was OK (in Italian because they want me to
and are patient with my mistakes!). I bet lots of us also have these "take
for granted" instances of globalism.

I'm presuming this sort of globalism will not be easy to disrupt, even with
the new culture of populism. But it is why I find populism, 10 powerful
versions of it (see original post and skim/read the article), a bit
threatening. And not just Trump .. there are 9 more given the article.

   -- Owen

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 7:49 AM, Gillian Densmore <gil.densmore at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Indeed! ^_^
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 7:30 AM, Steven A Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:
>
>> Gil -
>>
>> The sun just rose here as well, as I read this... I guess Donald's powers
>> are weaker than he thinks.
>>
>> - Steve
>>
>> On 1/27/17 7:24 AM, Gillian Densmore wrote:
>>
>> For What It's Worth at around 710AM before some meditation on a
>> stunningly nice FridayMorning:
>>
>> It depends.
>> Sounds to me you're just geeking out about Social Media That's totally
>> fine. It's pretty cool- or can be.. Keep in mind only certain Geeks are
>> likely to know about or even want to use GitHub for example.
>> And your (somewhat) preaching to the quire. Or at least the Trouble and
>> Bass part.
>> Not everyone wants to resort to FaceBook chat just to say hi. Some want
>> to talk on that thing you routinely want to chuck off your roof: Da Phone.
>> I know well the aholery of robodialers, as does everyone. Personally I
>> screen my calls as nomorefobo doesn't (yet) like  CyberMesa.
>>
>> Their's draw backs to offshoring and the way "Globalism" is going.;
>>
>>  I had a (infamously) problematic issue with Googles Wallet. They sent me
>> to India (where google has some it's tech support) They just didn't know
>> what the issue was. Problem: Wouldn't it be a good thing for google (for
>> example) to have decen number of people in irvine and mountain view to be
>> good ol fationed skunks such. For one: what if something goes wrong? Some
>> off shored out fits simply can't (or won't ) fix issues though.
>> A lot of places are mis-using tech and globalism " ". Go to Smiths. Self
>> check out( for example): Why don't they hire a few more dudes for that?
>> Google: Everything is beta, and might not work..
>> Comcast
>> TSA
>> Etc.
>>
>> On the brighter side: OMFG voice-to-text! YAR Why didn't I use that
>> sooner?
>>
>> Facebook(sort of) is useful and fun to chat with some of my friends  Or a
>> quick check in about meetups. I'm part of several global clubs. Some do
>> fucking awsome work in their areas.
>>
>> I suspect Dad's Smarmy side is geeking out about That Person.  I know not
>> where this flare up of domestic and global Drama  will lead.
>> No place good i'd imagine.
>>
>> Ask not for trouble. Ye shalt get it.
>>
>> In the meen time check out the sunrse it is super pretty, and the sky is
>> wonderfully clear. Let us hope warm sunny weather is soon.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "I daily chat with pioneers in tech fields, most of whom are not in my
>>> state or even my country .. if I can call it mine any more. And we get
>>> along just fine and the whole is greater than the some of its parts."
>>>
>>>
>>> If the activity is commercial, then one could imagine that new
>>> protectionist policies could make it harder for you to perform financial
>>> transactions with your collaborators.   You may instead be incentivized to
>>> work with domestic collaborators even if they are inferior or less
>>> appropriate.  You could try to sidestep the issue with Bitcoin, but then
>>> you are taking legal risks.
>>>
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> on behalf of Owen Densmore <
>>> owen at backspaces.net>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2017 7:10:50 PM
>>> *To:* Complexity Coffee Group; Wedtech
>>> *Subject:* [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source
>>> Software
>>>
>>> With all our concerns about Trump, and the article on 8 European
>>> populist ..  10 if you include US and Brexit
>>>
>>> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/12/05/world/europe/
>>> populism-in-age-of-trump.html
>>>
>>> .. I oddly got thinking about "our" kind of globalism: the Friam &
>>> WedTech lists, and open source Open Source Software and global
>>> communication.
>>>
>>> I daily chat with pioneers in tech fields, most of whom are not in my
>>> state or even my country .. if I can call it mine any more. And we get
>>> along just fine and the whole is greater than the some of its parts.
>>>
>>> I use GitHub to ask for an improvement in a software library. I use
>>> twitter to ask a question of a technologist. I store my data world wide,
>>> often which moves to be closer to the consumer. There are no walls, and
>>> there is a lot of cooperation. My world I guess is not Populist.
>>>
>>> I don't think that can be easily broken, but certainly Northern Korea
>>> has done it, as have some others. US?
>>>
>>> Don't most of us have the same experiences: Travel, co-workers, global
>>> facilities and so on? That at least is a ray of hope.
>>>
>>>    -- Owen
>>>
>>>
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