[FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software

[Gillian Densmore]

For What It's Worth as I understand it:
-It's a spectrum.
-Someone can have aspects of both.
-How someone recharges is offten a clue what end of this spectrum they're
on.
For example someone that talks a lot and then feels recharged has some
extrovert tendencies.
However
-Making matters worse is someone on theDyslexic and or Autism SpectrumS can
seem like Extrovert/Intervert (See also many of silicon vallies very clever
people)
-
-The sunset is very pretty and beer is good so is Legends of Tomorrow.
-Is it spring yet?
-Haven't we given ThatPerson what their neursis needs?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:11 PM, Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com> wrote:

> In her book "Neurosis and Human Growth", Karen Horney (Horn-Eye) has
> chapters on "the self-effacing solution" and "the expansive solution".
> Both solutions are responses to unconscious, neurotic conflicts.  The
> self-effacing version is introversion-like and the expansive version is
> extroversion-like.  In other words, extroversion and introversion can be
> caused by similar conflicts.
>
> Frank
>
>
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> Software
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>
> Right, it's fine for us to be talking about ambiguous concepts... in fact,
> I'd argue those are the things that need the most discussion.  Just for
> context, since I'm still waiting for my hepatocyte culture simulation to
> finish, I took this test:
>
> https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/beautiful-minds/23-signs-
> youe28099re-secretly-a-narcissist-masquerading-as-a-sensitive-introvert/
>
> I got a 67 ... of course, that's probably biased since I'm taking the test
> in the context of this conversation.  But what's amazing to me is my
> ability to doubt myself while remaining confident in my doubt of other
> things.  The best question was:
>
>   "___ I tend to feel humiliated when criticized."
>
> This reminds me of the reappropriation of negative labels.  I can't help
> but wonder what mechanisms (deeply) insecure people have developed to
> handle negative circumstances.  And that reminds me of this article, which
> I thought was fantastic:
>
>   An open letter to Milo Yiannopoulos
>   http://www.dailycal.org/2017/01/17/open-letter-milo-yiannopoulos/
>
> I think most people are hurt by criticism of any kind.  But what matters
> is not that you're hurt by it.  What matters is how you _respond_.  And how
> you respond also happens to be how we diagnose personality disorders.  It
> seems less about how the incoming information impinges on you and much more
> about how you respond, what your rearing taught you to do.
>
>
> On 01/27/2017 02:20 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
> > Well, this isn't physics or math so any assertion is ambiguous,
> complicated and uncertain. But...Introversion is often caused by grandiose
> or exhibitionistic impulses.  Once I saw a TV interview in which Barbra
> Streisand claimed to be a shy introvert.  (That's the correct spelling of
> her name). To the extent that I understand it, and very oversimplified,
> Narcissistic Personality Disorder is caused by failure of the parents to
> validate a child's authentic self.  For instance, imagine a three
> year-old's mother says, "He's a ladies' man like his daddy".  First, he's
> not a man and the only lady he cares about is his mommy.  He feels lonely,
> empty, and much dissonance between what he is and what his parent(s) say(s)
> he is.
> >
> > Disclaimer: I read a handful of books on this and related topics.  I
> took one course at the Pittsburgh Psychoanalytic Institute on
> "Psychoanalysis and Literature".  I had many conversations with residents,
> psychiatrists, and psychoanalysts when I worked in the Research Center in
> Child Psychiatry at the University of Pittsburgh.  This is far from being
> educated in the field.
>
> --
> ☣ glen
>
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