[FRIAM] AI advance

[Robert J. Cordingley]

You can find go players in Santa Fe, NM by visiting the 
http://santafegoclub.org website and attending their meets and any 
teaching sessions. For other places see the AGA at http://usgo.org or 
the EGF at http://www.eurogofed.org/

AlphaGo went on to beet Korean top player Lee Seedol 4-1 in March of 
2016. I don't think a larger board would help humans at all against a 
fully trained AlphaGo on the same size - but it is an interesting question.

AlphaGo itself isn't scary it's what comes next and so on and how 
quickly these advances are progressing that give some great minds cause 
for concern.

Robert C (AGA 2k)


On 1/30/17 11:37 PM, Vladimyr Burachynsky wrote:
> So there are at least three by your count, and that was only a shallow
> dredge of the pond.
>
> I obtained an early version of a computer game and frittered away a lot of
> hours playing
> that maniacal coffee maker.  I found the flaw that the writer relied upon
> and wiped out the game every time. That style of playing against a
> stupid piece of code was horrible but only worked against a machine.
>
> The flaw was that it made decisions on perceived values. So it was easy to
> lead it into disaster. I  had never seen a human play in that manner
> nor may that even be possible. Indeed I was able to annihilate it every
> game, wipe it off the board. This is considered very offensive and
> humiliating by Oriental Standards. But then I reminded my teachers that
> Cossacks were never noted for their Table Manners.
>
> Talk about a group of Intense Nicotine Addicts back then...
>
> Only a confirmed Go player could breathe that atmosphere. Though I wonder
> why Hawking is so afraid of this
> machine when it can humble the best of us. Just make the board much larger.
> At some point we will smell insulation burning.
>
> vib
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steven A Smith
> Sent: January-30-17 9:54 PM
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] AI advance
>
> Vlad -
>
>    I am the weakest of GO players, in spite of having considered the problem
> of trying to use Gosper's memoisation as a mode of associative memory
> problem solving.  Cody the M00se Dooderson has beat me every time we have
> played I think.  Weak, weak, weak!
>
> But I do find it fascinating.
>
>    - Steve
>
>
> On 1/30/17 8:07 PM, Vladimyr Burachynsky wrote:
>> To Joseph Spinden,
>>
>> The article is old and I wonder if you play the game.
>> I ran a Go club at the University of Manitoba and can tell you strange
>> stories about a time before Hassabis.
>>
>> I swear I never won a game in 5 years but I kept playing anyway.
>> I guess I am bloody minded. Eventually I discovered that my handicap
>> was being reduced and suspect I was close to 1 Dan at the time. I was
>> told that was harder than a Ph.D. So I went for the degree and
>> sloughed off the game.
>>
>> There should be a few players in the congregation, let them speak up.
>> vib
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] On Behalf Of Joseph
>> Spinden
>> Sent: January-28-17 8:32 AM
>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
>> Subject: [FRIAM] AI advance
>>
>> Of interest to some:
>>
>> https://www.wired.com/2016/01/in-a-huge-breakthrough-googles-ai-beats-
>> a-top-
>> player-at-the-game-of-go
>>
>> -JS
>>
>>
>>
>>
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