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gepr ⛧ gepropella at gmail.com
Sat Oct 21 17:35:04 EDT 2017


Awesome contribution!

On October 21, 2017 2:26:51 PM PDT, Steven A Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:
>I recently heard from a friend who achieved a very transient and 
>unexpected contact with a US Antartica Science team member via a 1W 
>handheld DMR RX/TX device.   Anecdotally, they field about 10 such 
>contacts a week.   This is more than a little misleading since DMR is a
>
>packet-relay system, albeit ad-hoc, but doesn't really say anything 
>about the distance of any single link... just that there were a 
>finite(reasonable) number of hops between my friend in Kansas and the 
>folks on the ground in Antartica.
>
>
>Meanwhile, my own tiny low-power handheld device (iPhone 4) hears (and 
>more importantly, can be heard by) a small handful of cell towers, the 
>closest is known to be 9 miles away and I don't get much if any useful 
>reception BTW.   That would suggest to me that my 2.4Ghz WiFi modem 
>could be "heard" from a similar distance (given the similar frequency
>of 
>1.9Ghz) I"m sure there are some folks here with more SIGINT knowledge 
>than I, I'm just winging it on the back of an envelope.   So that makes
>
>for a pretty big "moat" around my 2.9 acre property.   And if I can't 
>stop gophers from boring under my garden fence buried 18 inches, how
>can 
>I hope to stop Musk and El Chapo?  And the drones and tethered
>balloons? 
>No way!  I can barely see them with my 100x scope on my WWI 30.06 which
>
>has a theoretical ceiling of 10,000 ft anyway, so I doubt I can shoot 
>them down even if I can find them (PS.  I don't own any ammunition for 
>said antique handed down from my grandfather who carried it in Europe 
>100 years ago).
>
>
>I remember scoffing at a colleague 25 years ago who claimed that the 
>holographic strips added to $50/$100 bills was a "gubmint konspiracy"
>to 
>track our cash from satellite... and yup!  He had an MS in CS but lined
>
>his wallet with tinfoil (but not his hat?).    It seems steered phased 
>array antenna can interrogate UHF RFID tags from about 600ft in free
>air 
>today... so while he was a few orders of magnitude off in his paranoia,
>
>it is MORE reasonable than I'd expected.
>
>
>McNealy told us 20 years ago "there is NO privacy, get OVER it".   I'm 
>not sure what "over it" means, but I think we need a whole
>restructuring 
>of social norms and expectations based on this issue.
>
>
>My latest bets are on ideas grown up out of BlockChain tech... it's not
>
>just for Digital Currency anymore?
>
>
>I think we need to transcend both Capitalism (and for sure consumerism)
>
>and Democracy (but not egalitarianism) at this point, so folks like 
>Democracy Earth might either be "a good start" or "a bad seed", I'm not
>
>sure yet.   http://democracy.earth/ .  Any observations?
-- 
⛧glen⛧



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