[FRIAM] What's so bad about Scientism?

[Frank Wimberly]

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On Sat, Jul 7, 2018, 7:56 PM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:

> In the thunderstorm scenario, he’d likely take his 100 lbs to the high
> ground in his own bedroom.    He wouldn’t want to have his sister, who
> insists on sleeping on me, thunderstorm or not, raining down on him in some
> hysterical frenzy.
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> *From: *Nick Thompson <nickthompson at earthlink.net>
> *Date: *Saturday, July 7, 2018 at 7:34 PM
> *To: *Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com>
> *Cc: *Friam <Friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject: *RE: [FRIAM] What's so bad about Scientism?
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> Marcus,
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> The doubts you cite are REAL because we will see you act upon them.  We
> will see you test the floor for something furry.  Lorenzo allows you to
> deny him your bed during a thunderstorm!  You are a stern master.
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> Nicholas S. Thompson
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> Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
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> Clark University
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> http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/
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> *From:* Marcus Daniels [mailto:marcus at snoutfarm.com]
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 07, 2018 9:01 PM
> *To:* Nick Thompson <nickthompson at earthlink.net>; 'The Friday Morning
> Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <friam at redfish.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] What's so bad about Scientism?
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> *<*So when you say, “I doubt everything” that MEANS to me that you do
> nothing.>
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> It just means that memory and perception are provisional or even
> probabilistic.
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> So, when you put your feet out to the floor in the middle of the night, do
> you doubt that the floor is there?
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> I do doubt that it is safe for me to put my feet down, because I know the
> floor can be obscured by my big dog Lorenzo who likes to sleep there, but
> not all of the time.   If there was a huge thunderstorm and hours of rain
> before I went to sleep if I might not be hugely surprised to find water on
> the floor.   If I recently cleaned the room, I might move the bed a few
> centimeters and that would be enough to invalidate my motor memory and I
> might bang my head on the bedpost.  (I’ve done this.)
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> < Here’s an example.  Because of my recent bout of vertigo, I have
> moments of doubting that the world around is stable.  Under those
> conditions, I cannot walk.  REAL doubt (sensu pragmatico) is a nasty
> business. >
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> I sometimes have very low blood pressure if I wake-up at an unusual
> time.   I may find on the way to get a glass of water I’m in the process of
> passing out.   The first time that happened it was a surprise, but now I
> start getting my head down realizing that there are just seconds of
> consciousness left if I do not.   At no point do I think the lighting in
> the room is changing because I am experiencing tunnel vision or that I’m on
> a roller-coaster because I feel my stomach drop.
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> If the relationship between signals and their consequences become
> low-quality, one can adapt to be more model-based.  Not because the models
> are true, but just because the alternative is worse.  If you are saying
> that in the situation that perceptions and thoughts are both doubted, then
> then it is not skepticism, it is madness.
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> Marcus
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