[FRIAM] What's so bad about Scientism?
Nick Thompson
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Wed Jul 11 00:03:13 EDT 2018
Yes but! According to some Utilitarians you would deserve a pardon from Trump.
Ok. Remove Aunt Susie and put four nuns. Now you go scot free, right. But, as any Utilitarian would point out, this doesn’t make sense. You intentionally killed two people you could have saved. With premeditation, even.
Nick
Nicholas S. Thompson
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Clark University
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From: Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com] On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
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Of you kill Aunt Susie in order to save French poodles, you're going to prison.
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On Tue, Jul 10, 2018, 9:21 PM Nick Thompson <nickthompson at earthlink.net <mailto:nickthompson at earthlink.net> > wrote:
Fascinating response, Marcus.
Does this mean you cannot imagine ==> rational<== paralyzing doubt? So, imagine yourself in some situation of grave consequence, Truman’s decision to use the bomb or Comey’s decision to restart the investigation (or to announce its conclusion in the first place), or one of those “two track” hypotheticals that utilitarian’s are so fond of*, can you imagine yourself, not anxious, not in need of therapy at all, but unable to act?
I suppose one could have a standard rule: in situations of grave consequence, I do nothing, or I flip a coin.
In some dire situations animals “freeze”. It’s rational for animals because many predators’ prey- catching systems work on motion. Human decision paralysis might just be an evolutionary hold over.
Does that make it neurotic or just ill-suited to modern circumstances.
Nick
*You are the man in charge of a track switch beyond which tied to the tracks, on one side, four French Poodles and on the other side your beloved Aunt Susie. Incidentally, you should also know that the passenger cars on the train are loaded with a thousand pregnant girl scouts. (So don’t try to jam that switch in the middle, you wise guy!)
Nicholas S. Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology
Clark University
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From: Friam [mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com <mailto:friam-bounces at redfish.com> ] On Behalf Of Marcus Daniels
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2018 12:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] What's so bad about Scientism?
“By doubt, here, I don't mean entertained doubt. I mean doubt sufficiently profound that one cannot, when one needs to, pursue any course of action. REAL doubt. Paralyzing doubt.”
That’s a different thing, anxiety and/or depression. Treatable with exercise, medication, or therapy.
Marcus
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