[FRIAM] What is an object?

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Yep.  That's a fantastic example of metaphysical predisposition interfering with one's ability to reason well.  When I was a kid, my mom and I would argue a lot about whether animals had souls.  She claimed they absolutely did not.  Being young, I had no real idea what a soul was.  But I would argue that her justification for her belief was all from her religion (Catholicism).  *Practically*, her belief was exhibited when my beagle (Snoopy, of course) was killed by a car.  She tossed his body in the regular garbage and he was crushed and hauled away.  To this day, she has no idea why that was so horrible.


On 07/19/2018 09:15 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> <    Data driven modeling takes a different approach.  It _attempts_ to derive models *directly* from the biology (as directly as possible, anyway), rather than going through us (obviously fallible) human abstraction machines.  Machine learning is an attempt at this.  Teh *-omics are attempts at this.  Etc.  And while it's (currently) true that such modeling efforts remain, in general, less efficient and effective at building useful models, they are making some progress.  E.g. https://www.news-medical.net/news/20180712/Study-suggests-database-analysis-better-predicts-toxicity-of-chemicals-than-animal-testing.aspx  >
> 
> This reminds me of how some say that dogs don't have shame or dogs don't love you, etc. that the head-hanging is just an empty learned behavior to get along with humans.
> Who says humans are any different?


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