[FRIAM] Few of you ...

[glen]

Right. But that was my original point.You can't distinguish the early parts of a remedial sickness from a dying process. And, with cats at least, many things, like struvite crystals in males, if you don't intervene they withdraw and die ... i.e. dying versus merely getting sick are not isolable based on their final state. The idea I was complaining about is the isolation of a thing now from its historical development. Such separation can't really be done.

On January 18, 2019 11:42:16 AM PST, Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:
>The subjective can certainly be illusory, such as with suicidal
>ideation.   I am not claiming that dogs become suicidal, but they do
>shift their habits around.   Getting read for a daily activity, but
>then not engaging in it.  Not socializing with people or other dogs,
>withdrawing.    Finally, not eating.   It's not just instantaneous.  
>The habits fade over time.    I have another dog that was trending
>down, but now he takes thyroid pills and he's fine.   A person could
>say "I'm sad", and don't really have any more reason to believe them
>than I do by comparing their behavior to a dog's.  
-- 
glen