[FRIAM] Judea Pearl: Book of Why

[Frank Wimberly]

Steve,

I'm surprised you didn't find any posts by me in your search for
"causality" .  Usually, when someone says "correlation is not causation" it
triggers me.  In the early 90s/late 80s there were two teams working on
inference of causal graphs from observational data:  Pearl et al at UCLA
and Glymour et al at Carnegie Mellon.  They cooperated and developed
algorithms based on d-separation which was based on conditional
independence relations (correlation).  Glymour et al's book is "Causation,
Prediction and Search".  I implemented many algorithms in Java for that
group over a period of about 10 years and I was co-author of several papers.

Sorry for the narcissistic reaction.

Frank

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On Sun, Apr 19, 2020, 6:26 AM Steven A Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com> wrote:

> Glen -
>
> I'm in the midst (early part) of Judea Pearl's "Book of Why".
>
> I had a vague memory of his earlier book: "Causality" having been
> referenced if not discussed on this list.   Searching the archives, I
> discovered what I considered to be quite a Pearl (NPI) circa 2013.  In this
> long chain, you recommended Pearl's "Causality" which I now wish I had
> followed up on then.
>
>
> http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/beyond-reductionism-twice-td7582273i20.html#a7582308
>
> Among the many gems in the thread were the voices of two of our deceased
> members, Doug Roberts and Tory Hughes.   Doug coined one of his classic
> lines about (paraphrase) "being violently disinterested in the philosophy
> of causation" (or complexity or agent-based-model-design).
>
> After Nick's recent "violent disinterest in the Cult of Feynman" and in
> particular to any quote that might imply that birds are (paraphrase) "not
> first-class-citizens who would in fact be interested in ornithology, if
> they were given access to it", my eyes caught on your own quote (in 2013)
> of S. Ulam:
>
>     "Talking about non-linear mathematics is like talking about
> non-elephant
>     zoology." -- Stanislaw Ulam
>
> - Steve (176)
>
>  Unfortunately, after a couple of attempts to read it, I couldn't understand anything in your post except this part. My previous post was just under 300 words. So, I decided to try to make the next one under that mark as well.
>
> On 4/18/20 1:22 PM, Steven A Smith wrote:
>
> From whence (or wherest?) did you get your 300 word target?
>
>
> you might not be alone in that...  perhaps it was just gibberish.  And likely more than three hundred words of it.
>
>
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