[FRIAM] Judea Pearl: Book of Why
Frank Wimberly
wimberly3 at gmail.com
Sun Apr 19 11:18:21 EDT 2020
Going back and forth: If you infer the causal graph from observational
data you can use that graph to simulate data with the same joint
distribution as the original data.
Frank
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 9:11 AM uǝlƃ ☣ <gepropella at gmail.com> wrote:
> The *ensemble* point is the primary reason I regret not being able to
> parse your response to my Necker cube summarization of EricS' TLDR. It goes
> back to the original question of how/whether distributional conceptions
> better catch the unknown unknowns left dangling in the ambience. Pearl's
> attempts to burst "causality" into graphs, away from chains (though helping
> to identify chains when they do exist) is along the same line.
>
> To boot, it evokes both Gödel's interpretation of von Neumann's
> interpretation of Gödel's work (that it takes an infinite expression to
> describe a thing) and Rosen's definition of complexity (basically anything
> that requires an infinite number of models to describe).
>
> And, although I can't get my hands on the Rota paper EricS posted, I'm
> leery of relying on any phenomenology. Heidegger I trust a bit. Husserl not
> so much. Regardless, I don't think it's *necessary* to go that deep to grok
> the main point, which is that the transformation should be invertible. We
> should be able to flip back and forth from goo to thing such that the
> flipping doesn't change it. The goo we get after flipping from the things
> should be the same goo we had to start with.
>
> On 4/19/20 6:25 AM, Steven A Smith wrote:
> > My work of late (other than SimTable) has been in the realm of trying to
> analyze ensembles of predictive simulations. This is a logical next step
> (forward and backward propogating data and constraints as they are
> recorded/discovered/postulated) across space (populations) and time.
>
>
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