[FRIAM] IS: "...useful". WAS:: whackadoodles go mainstream!

thompnickson2 at gmail.com thompnickson2 at gmail.com
Mon Apr 20 20:33:17 EDT 2020


Steve, 

Many things are stable about Peirce -- if only his ferocious dedication to inquiry.  But for many of his later years, he was destitute and dependent on the kindness of others for his survival.  So, he is this cantankerous guy, who, none the less, has to at least TRY to fit in in order to survive.  So he keeps trying to explain himself to various audiences.   I think he would have made an excellent FRIAM member.  

Nick 

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com
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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Steven A Smith
Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 6:23 PM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] IS: "...useful". WAS:: whackadoodles go mainstream!


> So, Peirce had many ideas of Peirce and we could be in love with different ones. 
"Pierce is who you think Pierce thinks he is?"
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> Do you have time to distinguish between your idea of Pierce  and My idea of Peirce as regards the digestion of metal ducks?  
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> I am realizing the problem might be with my understanding of the metal duck example.  I took at as a kind of cranky, idiosyncratic project, like my desire to take apart a 25 year old fm radio and get it working again.  You might have meant it in a much more profound sense, a sense in which you use your study of the digestion of metal ducks as a part of a systematic inquiry into the nature of life.  In that case, you are right, Peirce would definitely have approved and I have slandered you both. 
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> Nick
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> Nicholas Thompson
> Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University 
> ThompNickSon2 at gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ?
> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2020 3:00 PM
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> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] IS: "...useful". WAS:: whackadoodles go mainstream!
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> I think your Peirce simulation might deny it. But his very useful work in logic (at the very least) shows he was capable of realizing the same sense of what is useful that I have. You're not in love with Peirce, your in love with your idea of Peirce.
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> On 4/20/20 1:38 PM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
>> To the Pragmatism chat-site and watch it light up.  But you have taught me that that would be trolling, and I believe that trolling is an unequivocally Bad Thing, so I won’t. 
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>>  [...]
>> Because it’s inventor, Peirce, would not have tolerated a definition of “useful” in terms of “making metal ducks that shit,” and William James would have.
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