[FRIAM] Flight Training and Deprecated Skills/Languages, etc.

Steve Smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Thu Aug 13 17:38:44 EDT 2020


Tom -

    I have not, but then I don't have conventional TV... however it
appears I can *stream* anything I want these days...  I'll look it up!

- Steve

PS.  Mary's grandfather was a full-time old-skool blacksmith in Nebraska
up into the 50s.   Appropriately his surname was Strong.  He was
apparently built like a dwarf.  I got my start from an Irishmen built
more like a leprechaun...   I had to stoop to use his anvil but his
forearms were more like Popeye's than a normal leprechaun.  He could
also recite lines from myriad Irish poets and writers.   How did our
generation get to be so dull?


> Steve:
> /" I still have a coal-fired forge and an anvil, both probably
> manufactured 100 years ago, that I can shape and even temper iron and
> steel with (and aluminum if I'm incredibly careful), but I do not and
> never will have the skills required to do it well, and certainly not
> to replace what modern industrial processes can achieve... barring a
> full apocalypse, it is merely a quaint "hobby" that might afford me
> the opportunity to turn out some rustic items others would mistake for
> "art",  or more often, repair the various related tools I might
> *use*in my forge...   though in most cases a strap and some bolts or
> rivets makes more sense than trying to re-weld a broken connecting
> rod, or lever. " /
> /
> /
> Do you watch "Forged in Fire" on the History Channel?
> TJ
>
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> On Thu, Aug 13, 2020 at 12:00 PM Steve Smith <sasmyth at swcp.com
> <mailto:sasmyth at swcp.com>> wrote:
>
>     I actually knew someone who lived near the Embry-Riddle location
>     in 2000/2001 where several of the 9/11 pilots learned to fly well
>     enough to do what they did.   She had friends (go figure) who
>     worked at a strip-club who claimed these "boys" were regulars
>     there.  It was pretty creepy 2nd order connection.  
>
>     My uncles were both pilots in WWII but the older was trained up on
>     the newfangled idea of a helicopter and proceeded to become a test
>     pilot for Sykorski.  He was forced into retirement (chief test
>     pilot) to a desk at 65.   Nobody wanted to ground him, but "rules
>     is rules" and in fact his health degraded acutely and abruptly and
>     he died just a few years later.  His family insists it was from
>     "heartbreak" from being grounded.  
>
>     I have a "young" friend (now 40s) who was just finishing up his
>     commercial certification at Embry-Riddle Prescott on 9/11 and
>     claims that the bottom not only dropped out for commercial pilots
>     for the next couple of years, but has "never recovered" and he has
>     been making a living as a bartender ever since.   Perhaps it is
>     time for him to revisit. 
>
>     My ex brother-in-law left his career in the Air Force to become "a
>     bus driver" and recently was retired (for age) from Delta.   Even
>     30 years ago things were incredibly automated.   I see no reason
>     that airliners won't be entirely automated and teleoperated in the
>     next 20 years.   The risk-profile of such things is evolving as
>     self-driving cars (and more aptly? Semi-tractors?) emerge.  
>
>     The hyperloop game is going to change long distance rapid-transit
>     eventually.   I don't believe anyone is planning for underground
>     "ballistic-trajectory-velocities" quite yet, but mag-lev-centered,
>     evacuated tube, zero-grade velocities could still be pretty
>     impressive, and energy consumption as well with magnetic
>     (regenerative) braking.     The earliest days of railroading
>     involved gravity-trains often with empty return cars being towed
>     by animal power.   Yet others used water from the high-side source
>     as "ballast" and if the up/down routes were mechanically coupled,
>     the extra weight of water plus load would allow the empties to be
>     returned "for free".  
>
>     Regarding Dave's friend's drug conviction, Denzel Washington's
>     (one of a series of flawed) character in the movie Flight is a
>     drug-addled pilot who, by implication in the story, actually
>     achieves a heroic manouver *because* he's still jacked on the
>     cocaine he snorted to lift himself out of his alcohol hangover.   
>     The setup is that a jackscrew controlling horizontal stablizer
>     breaks, forcing the nose of the plane down with no recourse... 
>     Denzel's character quickly recognizes the futility of the
>     situation and the *opportunity* of rolling the dive into an
>     inverted orientation such that the forced "nose down" is now "nose
>     up".
>
>     Popular Mechanics (of all places) had an article on the
>     plausibility of the Cocaine effects supporting the story (rather
>     than the mechanics of inverted flying).
>
>     I suspect I could get work myself using my 40 year-stale FortranIV
>     experience on "mission critical" systems already old at that time,
>     but still in some sort of service.  I did a huge senior project on
>     a FortranIV system for simulating exo-Terran atmospheres (e.g.
>     Mars) which might well be still be in service?   Fortunately my
>     COBOL/RPG experience is so slim I'd never be tempted to try that
>     domain.
>
>     I'd like to believe that the myriad "stale skill" job
>     opportunities (demands) we see today are going to be
>     yet-more-fully deprecated.   I still have a coal-fired forge and
>     an anvil, both probably manufactured 100 years ago, that I can
>     shape and even temper iron and steel with (and aluminum if I'm
>     incredibly careful), but I do not and never will have the skills
>     required to do it well, and certainly not to replace what modern
>     industrial processes can achieve... barring a full apocalypse, it
>     is merely a quaint "hobby" that might afford me the opportunity to
>     turn out some rustic items others would mistake for "art",  or
>     more often, repair the various related tools I might *use*in my
>     forge...   though in most cases a strap and some bolts or rivets
>     makes more sense than trying to re-weld a broken connecting rod,
>     or lever.
>
>     Meanwhile, the discussion of how our "first programming language"
>     defines us, I believe that my earliest "programming" experience
>     was more "analysis" of the circuitry of pinball (and vending)
>     machines in my friend's father's workshop where he repaired them,
>     and there were always an array of pinball machines in various
>     states of repair, with all the guts open for inspection while
>     operating.   Very much an analog/digital hybrid system while the
>     older vending machines were essentially all "rod logic" (albeit
>     simple).   Later, at my first employer (radio station) I learned
>     the ins and outs of automated infinite loop carousel "programming"
>     which was a hybrid of relay and mechanical (rod/gear/lever)
>     logics.    The "programming" was really simplistic, involving
>     inserting "shorting pins" in matrices to define priorities and
>     timing to get the "right" mix of commercials, PSAs, and a
>     diversity of music played during any given period (usually a 4
>     hour shift).   I can't say how much it influenced my later
>     understanding of "computer programming" which I was being
>     introduced to simultaneously by our Driver's Ed teacher who had
>     somehow wrangled a PDP-x rack into a small room with a
>     teletype/paper-tape-punch.  He didn't really have a clue, he was
>     learning BASIC along with us, following a simple set of "sample
>     programs" listed in what I think was the "owners manual" for the
>     machine.
>
>     Ramble,
>
>      - Steve
>
>>     Does it include lessons on how to land the plane?
>>
>>     —Barry
>>
>>     On 12 Aug 2020, at 21:53, Frank Wimberly wrote:
>>
>>         I just got an email from a flight training program offering
>>         me a nine month
>>         course to get a multi engine commercial license. They don't
>>         read the Friam
>>         listsrv, I hope. I'm too old in any case.
>>
>>         ---
>>         Frank C. Wimberly
>>         140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
>>         Santa Fe, NM 87505
>>
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