[FRIAM] New ways of understanding the world

Marcus Daniels marcus at snoutfarm.com
Tue Dec 1 15:20:44 EST 2020


I find it unfortunate that operating systems dating back to SYSV and BSD conceived of compiled programs that could not self-modify.   Restrictions like that tend to limit how people think about software.   I've always liked syntax-free languages like Lisp because code is just stuff to be chopped out from one place and inserted some other place like any other sort of data.   All this presentation stuff for human programmers seems so banal.

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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Steve Smith
Sent: Tuesday, December 1, 2020 11:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] New ways of understanding the world

I knew it... it is just Core Wars all the way down!
> Right. Except that these little machines are not merely learning a static string. They're *writing* to the string at the same time they're reading it.
>
> On 12/1/20 10:12 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>> Map Nick's list of numbers to a spatiotemporal snapshot of the physical world.  The dog and the human have both learned how to learn about it.  Whether it took 1 year, 8000 years, or 2.7 billion years sort of doesn’t matter in the argument except that the new AI needs enough time to perform experiments to learn the consequences and meaning of different patterns of numbers.   If the list of numbers describes every possible action that the AI could take and how that particular path would be recorded, then any given experiment could in principle be encapsulated in a single set of numbers; it is just a matter of what cells in the hyperspace the AI decides to look at.

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