[FRIAM] Thread/Post hygiene

Steve Smith sasmyth at swcp.com
Thu Jun 4 14:31:54 EDT 2020


To All -

Even though I don't follow Glen's 5 commandments religiously (or even
well), I appreciate the attempt to normalize the stylization of the
conversations here.

I'm facile enough with my own mail-tool and auxiliary tools to
*function* when people get overly idiosyncratic with their mail-client
use and formatting. I live with the HTML that sometimes gets embedded by
some clients/modes of use.   I *prefer* that people inline images
(rather than attach, requiring opening in another tool, etc.) and ???
which I think is usually effected through HTML.  I believed until "just
now" that what I see as "blue text with a vertical line on the left" was
embedded HTML, i now see it is just the way Thunderbird renders the (now
ancient) Unix Mail formatting of a ">" preceding the line when included
(and ">>" etc.)

I prefer *bold* and _underline_ and -italics- markup conventions as well
as (HTML again?) fixed/variable width as the only font conventions,
though I"m guilty of using the HTML formatting (bullets, indentions etc)
and even the Bold/Italics/Underline bits sometimes. 

I'm a larder, but I've tried to cut down on that which also cuts down on
the exponential growth of conversations if I don't respond to every
point one of you makes with "two thoughts", etc.   I will redouble my
efforts to keep the FriAM thread R0 < 1.0.

Everything Glen says about trimming the post to what  you are responding
to and sporadically summarizing are things I really appreciate when
others do it (well), though sometimes if done poorly it feels like
misappropriating a thread.  

We have been so thread-bendy (thread-shreddy) of late that it feels like
*everyone* has given up on this, but I suspect we might be able to rein
ourselves in (I caught myself just now almost continuing this under
Santa Fe Plaza Riot!

- Steve


On 6/3/20 5:29 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote:
> 0th lesson: Reply, don't Forward.
> 1st lesson: Don't lard, whole thoughts only, top or bottom posted.
> 2nd lesson: Trim the parts of the post you're responding to down to the part you're responding to.
> 3rd lesson: Sporadically summarize the gist of the thread including edited/selected (for and against) [ir]relevant sub-threads.
> 4th lesson: Don't use a web client. Download all of the posts, and download the whole of every post, including the headers.
>
> And, no. *I* will never use HTML compostion unless it's by accident because I'm on a stupid ... I mean "smart" ... device wherein I can't figure out how to make it plain text. What does HTML get you anyway? ... except for extra formatting that takes even more tech to handle well? Now, if you really do NOT want to use email, then don't use email. Move to a different forum technology. There's a-plenty out there.
>
> On 6/3/20 12:21 PM, thompnickson2 at gmail.com wrote:
>> */[NST===> I hear you callin’ glen, but I genuinely don’t know how to respond.  If you have ways that we might organize our conversations so they made more sense, and you are willing to give expert-to-citizen instructions, I promise to try them.  In the meantime, you couldn’t, by any chance, speaking of Ludditry, be seduced into using HTML?<===nst] /*




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