[FRIAM] Freedom of opinion or fascist trap

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Well, for starters, it’s inaccurate in his characterization of his enemies, no?  

 

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On the contrary, nihilist criminals are simply out for loot and the thrill of destruction, with cadres of left-wing radicals like antifa <https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-william-p-barrs-statement-riots-and-domestic-terrorism>  infiltrating protest marches to exploit Floyd’s death for their own anarchic purposes.

 

Nick

 

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Clark University

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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 9:38 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Freedom of opinion or fascist trap

 

Important aspect too. In what sense was the op ed from Tom Cotton fake or false in your opinion ? 

 

-J.

 

 

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Date: 6/5/20 17:19 (GMT+01:00) 

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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Freedom of opinion or fascist trap 

 

I disagree somewhat. I think propaganda is closely related to fake news. And the disruption scheme the Russians use involves fake news about all candidates (e.g. Trump donating his plane to help people). The propaganda *also* "treats both sides". My suggestion is that propaganda is distinguishable from conspiracy theory through the inclusion of *detail*. Propaganda seems a bit light on detail, whereas conspiracy theories are detail rich. Both are false.

The tricky distinction is between conspiracy theory and credible detail-wading. Rachel Maddow is a good foil for that distinction. Sometimes she looks like a dork just doing a good job. And sometimes she looks like a wacko spouting (very detailed) conspiracy theories ... still a dork, of course, which is why I love her.

On 6/5/20 8:10 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote:
> When does an opinion become propaganda? I think this happens when you repeat one-sided opinions. 

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