[FRIAM] Thoughts on the Floyd protests
Marcus Daniels
marcus at snoutfarm.com
Wed Jun 10 12:51:01 EDT 2020
I think the point is that are already not accountable. Protected by unions and colleagues who will look the other way, and a culture that accepts that certain people must consent to miserable lives.
On 6/10/20, 9:48 AM, "Friam on behalf of Prof David West" <friam-bounces at redfish.com on behalf of profwest at fastmail.fm> wrote:
downside is the private militias that Jon mentioned. just like the military that replaces soldiers with private contractors - to whom are the latter accountable?
On Tue, Jun 9, 2020, at 7:20 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> Of all public services that one is about last on my list.
> For officers that get laid off, they can go work for private security
> firms and they'll likely make more money.
> Not seeing the downside at the moment.
>
> Marcus
>
> On 6/9/20, 4:28 PM, "Friam on behalf of Jon Zingale"
> <friam-bounces at redfish.com on behalf of jonzingale at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Like many of you and from an armchair, I am watching protests in
> the streets. I am watching calls for the defunding of our police, and
> surprisingly painful responses on all sides. The whole affair leaves
> me to wonder:
>
> 1. Will the efforts to defund the police eventually meet with efforts
> to build private militias? Will the future of policing in this country
> follow a path similar to the shift from public to private postal service?
> If so, what will accountability be?
>
> 2. While there appear to be some videos of police chiefs talking to
> crowds through megaphones, should I expect to see interviews with
> police on podcasts or in other more intimate domains? Are commentators
> making a mistake in treating the thoughts and opinions of police officers,
> as individuals, as if they were swarming black boxes?
>
> 3. Protests are announced with more than a day's notice. Police,
> it would seem, are aware and anticipating participation in these public
> events. What do the text messages between police officers look like in
> the days leading up to some of the more horrific scenes?
>
> 4. Are any of us good enough friends with a police officer such that we
> could invite one to talk about these events on an upcoming Friday?
>
> I cannot help but be upset by what I am seeing, and yet there do not
> seem to be meaningful steps taken by those that can affect transparency
> or promote sanity.
>
> Jon
>
>
>
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