[FRIAM] Thoughts on the Floyd protests

[Marcus Daniels]

I think the point is that are already not accountable.   Protected by unions and colleagues who will look the other way, and a culture that accepts that certain people must consent to miserable lives. 

On 6/10/20, 9:48 AM, "Friam on behalf of Prof David West" <friam-bounces at redfish.com on behalf of profwest at fastmail.fm> wrote:

    downside is the private militias that Jon mentioned. just like the military that replaces soldiers with private contractors - to whom are the latter accountable?


    On Tue, Jun 9, 2020, at 7:20 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
    > Of all public services that one is about last on my list.   
    > For officers that get laid off, they can go work for private security 
    > firms and they'll likely make more money.  
    > Not seeing the downside at the moment.
    > 
    > Marcus
    > 
    > On 6/9/20, 4:28 PM, "Friam on behalf of Jon Zingale" 
    > <friam-bounces at redfish.com on behalf of jonzingale at gmail.com> wrote:
    > 
    >     Like many of you and from an armchair, I am watching protests in
    >     the streets. I am watching calls for the defunding of our police, and
    >     surprisingly painful responses on all sides. The whole affair leaves
    >     me to wonder:
    > 
    >     1. Will the efforts to defund the police eventually meet with efforts
    >     to build private militias? Will the future of policing in this country
    >     follow a path similar to the shift from public to private postal service?
    >     If so, what will accountability be?
    > 
    >     2. While there appear to be some videos of police chiefs talking to
    >     crowds through megaphones, should I expect to see interviews with
    >     police on podcasts or in other more intimate domains? Are commentators
    >     making a mistake in treating the thoughts and opinions of police officers,
    >     as individuals, as if they were swarming black boxes?
    > 
    >     3. Protests are announced with more than a day's notice. Police,
    >     it would seem, are aware and anticipating participation in these public
    >     events. What do the text messages between police officers look like in
    >     the days leading up to some of the more horrific scenes? 
    > 
    >     4. Are any of us good enough friends with a police officer such that we
    >     could invite one to talk about these events on an upcoming Friday?
    > 
    >     I cannot help but be upset by what I am seeing, and yet there do not
    >     seem to be meaningful steps taken by those that can affect transparency
    >     or promote sanity.
    > 
    >     Jon
    > 
    > 
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