[FRIAM] alternative response

[Marcus Daniels]

It seems to me doctors by in large do not substitute their own judgement.   They are restricted by approved treatment protocols and what patient insurance will cover.   Most diagnosis comes the collective experience of the community – it is descriptive like cartography.   Treatment protocols are limited by testing budgets of pharmaceutical companies and what the market will bear to reimburse them.

It seems inevitable that this will be displaced over time with machine learning and robotics.    I imagine a future like in Never Let Me Go, but perhaps a type of genetically modified human with no cognitive function that can used for testing in place of monkeys.

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Date: Sunday, June 14, 2020 at 9:12 AM
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Hi, Dave,

I am always interested when any of our members – we who are so hard on the “tin hat people” --,  departsfrom scientific orthodoxy.  What determines when a scientist substitutes his own judgement for that of colleagues in other disciplines?  That’s not a rhetorical question.  And, having done that, why would on ever go to a doctor again?  What about Linus Pauling and vitamin C?

Has anybody heard from Bruce?  Did he make it across?

Nick

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Prof David West
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2020 7:15 AM
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Subject: [FRIAM] alternative response

My time in Amsterdam put me dead center in the Vegan / Vegetarian / Herbal / Alternative Medicine community, with whom I still correspond. I received this book and a strong recommendation from them. Most of the people in that community are following the ideas in the book and claim high effectiveness.

I have a deep respect for acupuncture and Ayurveda and similar traditions, but am highly skeptical of the "new age" stuff. Nevertheless, in case someone is curious/interested.

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davew
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