[FRIAM] alternative response

[Prof David West]

Some historians would argue that Washington was the 8th President of the US. The other seven, beginning with John Hanson, were Presidents under the authority of the Articles of Confederation that established the US as a political entity prior to the drafting and adoption of the Constitution. Washington was the first President under the authority of the Constitution.

davew


On Wed, Jun 17, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Gary Schiltz wrote:
> I can't speak for anyone else, but I suspect so. As an example of partially supported beliefs, I have no direct way of knowing that George Washington was the first president of the United States, or that he even existed. I choose to believe this, because I've heard and read about him, and I find it hard to believe that a conspiracy to instill a false assertion could have been pulled off. I could research further, which *might* reveal enough contradictions to invalidate my belief, but I choose not to. I take a similar approach to, for example, climate change.
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> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 2:00 PM <thompnickson2 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Clark University____

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>> If I am honest, which I at least usually try to be, most beliefs that I have are only supported by the amount of effort I'm willing to put into the endeavor of supporting them. I can rationalize this by saying that nobody's brain, not even Einstein's, has (or had) the capacity to calculate and keep track of all the assumptions necessary to support our beliefs. I do believe this is true, even though it is more the result of my simply getting tired of or bored with trying to do so. Maybe this has a lot to do with why people have "faith", they just get tired of trying to figure it all out, and it is so much easier to accept what a large group of your peers tells you. I think true wisdom starts when one realizes those limitations.____

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>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 12:44 PM Jon Zingale <jonzingale at gmail.com> wrote:____


>>> Nick,
>>> 
>>> Spoiler alert, there is no *how best to think*. You say random, Gary says
>>> determined. Until you investigate the consequences of each you can't even
>>> know whether or not you are actually developing the same model ( like with
>>> the Church-Turing thesis). At the end of the day, deciding whether or not
>>> the universe is determined, indeterminate, random, etc.. is decidedly
>>> uninteresting. I try to hold 50 conflicting ontological commitments before
>>> breakfast. Alas, it appears that we have no interest in working with the
>>> commitments others make. In an effort to contribute to the banality I
>>> propose 2401 or perhaps whatever number you would construct the fifth time
>>> you follow Cantor's diagonal argument!
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