[FRIAM] Shorthands for Brain-stuff
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Sun Oct 4 23:41:53 EDT 2020
Frank,
Causality is one of the great cesspools of philosophy, and I am in no position to pump it. For one thing, it seems to me that causality statements are classic instances of category errors. We speak of event A causing event B, but, whenever we do, we are adverting to evidence that shows that Events of Class A have been necessary or sufficient conditions for event of Class B. So, like any things, causality lives at a higher level of organization than that to which we normally attribute it. We can say that a single event of B following A is consistent with causality, but we probably should be careful never to say that event A caused event B. After all, this instance of B following A, could always, conceivably, be a coincidence.
I would love to know what your collaborators think of that assertion. Is this the kind of thing that George Duncan could dope-slap me about?
Nick
Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
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From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly
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Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Shorthands for Brain-stuff
Having worked in the field of causal reasoning for many years I am inclined to say that every event is both a cause and an effect. But perhaps you're using the words differently.
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On Sun, Oct 4, 2020, 9:11 PM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com <mailto:marcus at snoutfarm.com> > wrote:
MGD> In your model intents come from the l.teleonomicus, machinery that follows the same rules of physics as everything else.
[NST===>Yes, but not just those laws. <===nst]
What other rules? There are rules that override physics? How is that lump of goo different from any other lump of goo?
Marcus
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