[FRIAM] Trump as a victim

Frank Wimberly wimberly3 at gmail.com
Wed Oct 7 13:16:26 EDT 2020


Try again:

You either see a pooper and crier or someone adorable or both.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/JaXtpLd9H2gjjj3x5



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Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 11:07 AM Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com> wrote:

> You see either a pooper and crier or someone adorable
>
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/KpmCLdxcqNqCLfn2A
>
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> Frank C. Wimberly
> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
> Santa Fe, NM 87505
>
> 505 670-9918
> Santa Fe, NM
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 10:59 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:
>
>> Frank writes:
>>
>> < I feel empathy and sympathy for the little baby Donald before the
>> remote mother and the overweening father made their imprint on him.>
>>
>> Steve writes:
>>
>> < I believe that suppressing one's pity/sympathy/empathy/compassion
>> entirely is the "reactive" mode...   I suspect our friend Donald started
>> down that path at a very young age and has only the barest echoes or ghosts
>> of those feelings remaining.    I knew too many "western men" as a child
>> who seemed to have done the same with their relationship to nature and
>> animals...  being brutal with predators/varmints leading to a certain
>> brutality to prey (game animals) to their own working stock (cattle, sheep,
>> rabbits, horses, dogs) and then ultimately their families (wives, children)
>> and could-have-been friends.   They were not devoid of this, but there was
>> something about the lifestyle and circumstance (and social context) that
>> seemed to strongly encourage, if not require, that suppression of empathy. >
>>
>> I grew up on a farm and was not taught to think much of anything about
>> animals.   We had a cow that had a grown calf that was in the neighboring
>> field (fenced off) that was being bred.   The mother saw it and became
>> agitated.   She took a run at a good wire fence and managed to punch a hole
>> in it.   It was an amazing display of strength.   I suppose I might think
>> of a young Trumper as a sort of raccoon.  Superficially looks ok, but don’t
>> try to feed it.  It will rip your hand off.   At some point, for our own
>> sanity, we will have confront how we have treated animals (and how we may
>> likely treat AIs) or at least why we treat some differently than others.
>>  I’d say if there is some kind of communication that can occur (verbal or
>> non-verbal) that entity has higher status than those than cannot engage in
>> communication.  As baby Donald would mostly just poop and cry, he wouldn’t
>> necessarily get very high on that priority list.
>>
>> Marcus
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