[FRIAM] Trump as a victim

[Frank Wimberly]

Guilty

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Frank C. Wimberly
140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
Santa Fe, NM 87505

505 670-9918
Santa Fe, NM

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 11:19 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:

> It seemed a rookie mistake for a logician!
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> *From:* Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 7, 2020 10:16 AM
> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <
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> Try again:
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> You either see a pooper and crier or someone adorable or both.
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> https://photos.app.goo.gl/JaXtpLd9H2gjjj3x5
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> Frank C. Wimberly
> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
> Santa Fe, NM 87505
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> 505 670-9918
> Santa Fe, NM
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> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 11:07 AM Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> You see either a pooper and crier or someone adorable
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> https://photos.app.goo.gl/KpmCLdxcqNqCLfn2A
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> Frank C. Wimberly
> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,
> Santa Fe, NM 87505
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> 505 670-9918
> Santa Fe, NM
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> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 10:59 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:
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> Frank writes:
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> < I feel empathy and sympathy for the little baby Donald before the remote
> mother and the overweening father made their imprint on him.>
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> Steve writes:
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> < I believe that suppressing one's pity/sympathy/empathy/compassion
> entirely is the "reactive" mode...   I suspect our friend Donald started
> down that path at a very young age and has only the barest echoes or ghosts
> of those feelings remaining.    I knew too many "western men" as a child
> who seemed to have done the same with their relationship to nature and
> animals...  being brutal with predators/varmints leading to a certain
> brutality to prey (game animals) to their own working stock (cattle, sheep,
> rabbits, horses, dogs) and then ultimately their families (wives, children)
> and could-have-been friends.   They were not devoid of this, but there was
> something about the lifestyle and circumstance (and social context) that
> seemed to strongly encourage, if not require, that suppression of empathy. >
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> I grew up on a farm and was not taught to think much of anything about
> animals.   We had a cow that had a grown calf that was in the neighboring
> field (fenced off) that was being bred.   The mother saw it and became
> agitated.   She took a run at a good wire fence and managed to punch a hole
> in it.   It was an amazing display of strength.   I suppose I might think
> of a young Trumper as a sort of raccoon.  Superficially looks ok, but don’t
> try to feed it.  It will rip your hand off.   At some point, for our own
> sanity, we will have confront how we have treated animals (and how we may
> likely treat AIs) or at least why we treat some differently than others.
>  I’d say if there is some kind of communication that can occur (verbal or
> non-verbal) that entity has higher status than those than cannot engage in
> communication.  As baby Donald would mostly just poop and cry, he wouldn’t
> necessarily get very high on that priority list.
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> Marcus
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