[FRIAM] Trump as a victim
Roger Frye
frye.roger at gmail.com
Wed Oct 7 15:08:43 EDT 2020
My stumbling block is Stephen Miller. After some effort, I could muster up
Buddhist compassion for Trump and wish that he be healthy, strong and
happy. But I chastised myself for wishing Stephen Miller would get it when
I saw a picture of him walking next to Hope Hicks. Then when I heard that
he has it too, I couldn't help smiling.
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 12:54 PM Jochen Fromm <jofr at cas-group.net> wrote:
> I started to feel sorry for Donald when I saw him gasping for air on the
> balcony of the White House. We are all just humans, and he really seems to
> be a Covid19 victim. As Barack Obama said let us hope that the President
> and all those affected by the Coronavirus are getting the care they need
> and feel better soon.
>
> But shortly after the old Donald was back, and to me it looks like he has
> not learned much. No signs of remorse for his behavior, no pity for Covid19
> victims and no apology for the people he has infected in the last days.
> Instead we can see rage tweeting in uppercase (is his Caps Lock Key broken
> now?) in increasing intensity and frequency.
>
> How do you see it?
>
> -J.
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Frank Wimberly <wimberly3 at gmail.com>
> Date: 10/7/20 18:29 (GMT+01:00)
> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam at redfish.com>
>
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Trump as a victim
>
> I feel empathy and sympathy for the little baby Donald before the remote
> mother and the overweening father made their imprint on him.
>
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> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 9:38 AM Marcus Daniels <marcus at snoutfarm.com> wrote:
>
>> Empathy requires attention and time, and anyone else is a better use of
>> it. Quoting from Utopia, "What you have you done today to earn your place
>> in this big crowded world of ours?"
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Friam <friam-bounces at redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ???
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 5:54 AM
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>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Trump as a victim
>>
>> A collection of people, who shall remain nameless, recently tried to
>> shame me for objecting to their waste of empathy for poor lil ol Trump, in
>> light of his infection. One argument went something like "His father was
>> horrible." One primary argument went something like "empathy begets
>> empathy". Empathy is not zero-sum. Etc.
>>
>> I started my objection to all this Trump-as-a-victim talk by listing
>> several aspects of his CHARMED LIFE, like the fact that he's lucky enough
>> to have lived to a ripe old age (when so many of us die young), he was born
>> wealthy (when so many of us live our entire lives dirt poor), his stupid TV
>> show was wildly successful (when so many of us are serial failures), his
>> weaponized litigousness has benefited him throughout his life (when so many
>> of us can't even afford a lawyer). Etc.
>>
>> All that *privilege* has been bestowed upon him. And it seems, to me,
>> he's squandered it all. He reminds me of those pitiful pictures of Saddam
>> Hussein in court and then prison and then dead. Oh boo-hoo, poor little
>> dictator being mistreated. Such sentiments are not merely weird to me. If
>> game theory and the success of simplistic tit-for-tat has taught us
>> anything, it is that the algorithmic *depth* required to beat
>> straightforward (poetic) "justice" is academically interesting, but
>> pragmatically degenerate.
>>
>> So, no. I will not waste any of my finite lifetime feeling sorry for poor
>> lil ol Trump, our Privilege Squanderer in Chief. If that magically limits
>> my ability to empathize in some other context, so be it. If it implies that
>> when I die pathetically, under some bridge, eating partial hamburgers from
>> the Wendy's dumpster, my colleagues *rightly* avoid wasting their finite
>> lifetimes feeling sorry for me, then I'm ready for that day. Like it or
>> not, tu quoque is a fallacy.
>>
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